Re: Adamant Mod Discussion Thread
 

For reference, here is the information stating why a counter-intel facility using the Fate Shrine ability(s) is more or less useless:

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Re: Adamant Mod Discussion Thread
 

What about the space-based training facilities in my Last post, Fyron?

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That's what Modding tutorial says about this ability. So the only problem is to convince Fyron to add such component http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Wouldn't component-based training be susceptible to sector stacking?

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He could also make this into a unique facility type. Say like System Lord or System General. (IE you make the facility with the said ability, but use a Race Portrait as the image instead of a facility image.)

You give this Facility a new class, say System Government.

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Only if it was sector training, which will never be used in Adamant...

I am rather leary of component-base training... Imagine what happens when the nomads start gifting these out to normal races... Perhaps a reduced efficiency training or something...

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Make it starbases only. And make it large and spendy, so you have to build a base designed solely to house the training facility. How would this be any different that if you gifted a tiny planet with training facilities to another player. Its not like the normal races couldn't build their own training facilities on a planet, planetside facilities would be cheaper to maintain as well. Also a base is more susceptible to attack than a planet. Sure the nomads aren't limited by the number of facility slots available but that's not going to break anything is it? If a normal race deals for a spacebased facility in order to save one facility slot on a planet somewhere he is not going to win the game automatically because he did. It will not make planetside facilities obsolete. You aren't going to trade with your enemies. They will still have to build planetside facilities. Beside if a spacebased facility is destroyed you would have to deal for another from a nomadic race rather than just rebuild, which may take two to four times longer if the nomads have to build it first.


Both will have pluses and minuses:

Nomads:
-Plus:
--No facility slot required
--Can be built anywhere

-Minus:
--Has maintenance cost
--Would cost more to build
--Would take longer to build
--Cannot be defended with Weapons Platforms.



Normal Races:
-Plus:
--No maintenance cost
--Cheaper than a starbase
--Builds quicker
--Can be defended with planetary defenses

-Minus:
--Requires a planetside facility slot
--Limited to planetary locations



If you must penalize the nomads training facilities in some way make it require a higher tech level for the nomads rather than making them less effective. By the time the nomads were rolling them out the normal races could have already built their facilities and have no need for spacebased facilities.

Re: Adamant Mod Discussion Thread
 

Fyron, an idea that I just put into the STM that you might want to consider for Adamant.

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What does this do, exactly? Just add more powerful research facilities?

Re: Adamant Mod Discussion Thread
 

It increase the research bonus for that race.

Mild would give that race a 25% boost to reseach
Medium would give 50%
Heavy 100%.

Its a racial trait so it does not require any new facilities or technology. It is done like a characteristic or culture bonus but is an advanced trait.