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freduk December 18th, 2003 01:11 AM

kamikaze ships
 
can ships set to kamikaze ram stacks of satelites ???

is there a decent way to prevent kamikaze ships to ram you ships? repulsar beam only works during my turn, so the next turn the kamikaze ships wil simply move towards my ships and crash into them...

Slynky December 18th, 2003 01:23 AM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by freduk:
can ships set to kamikaze ram stacks of satelites ???

is there a decent way to prevent kamikaze ships to ram you ships? repulsar beam only works during my turn, so the next turn the kamikaze ships wil simply move towards my ships and crash into them...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think they can ram sats. On a big ship (battleship or above) a full repulser can push them 12 away. People who play me know I use repulsers more than the average person. Make a few of these, set the class to look for unarmed ships first (if that is what is ramming you) and let them move them out of the way. A heavy mount will push them 12 sectors...usually out of the way for a turn. If you are at the low end of the ships, just try to have larger ships...that helps some.

Grandpa Kim December 18th, 2003 03:23 AM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
A more direct approach: max range strategy, long range DF weapons, and a combat speed equal to or faster than your opponent's. The object being to never let him get close enough to ram.

TerranC December 18th, 2003 05:39 AM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by freduk:
can ships set to kamikaze ram stacks of satelites ???

is there a decent way to prevent kamikaze ships to ram you ships? repulsar beam only works during my turn, so the next turn the kamikaze ships wil simply move towards my ships and crash into them...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Can you ram stacks of satellites? Yes.
Can you make a strategy that will make your ships ram stacks in strategic combat (I assume this is what you mean by to set)? I haven't the slightest.

The only decent way to prevent kamikaze ships is to blow them out of the sky first; or have lots and lots of armor.

deccan December 18th, 2003 06:27 AM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TerranC:

Can you make a strategy that will make your ships ram stacks in strategic combat (I assume this is what you mean by to set)? I haven't the slightest.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You can't in strategic. I've tried and tried and tried. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Fix in a patch please!

oleg December 18th, 2003 03:08 PM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by freduk:
.. is there a decent way to prevent kamikaze ships to ram you ships? repulsar beam only works during my turn, so the next turn the kamikaze ships wil simply move towards my ships and crash into them...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">shield depletor + engine killer can make kamikaze ship unable to catch you.

Maerlyn December 18th, 2003 04:50 PM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
do engine destroying weapons also deal damage to shields? or do they only work if the shields are already depleted?

If I use the Massive Engine Destroying Weapon found through ruins, and the enemy has got 600 shield points, will my weapon (in case it hits the target):

1. deplete the shield and deal the rest (1k -600) 400 damage to the engines?

2. only deplete the shields?

3. do nothing?

thanx

oleg December 18th, 2003 04:53 PM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Maerlyn:
do engine destroying weapons also deal damage to shields? or do they only work if the shields are already depleted?

If I use the Massive Engine Destroying Weapon found through ruins, and the enemy has got 600 shield points, will my weapon (in case it hits the target):

1. deplete the shield and deal the rest (1k -600) 400 damage to the engines?

2. only deplete the shields?

3. do nothing?

thanx

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">engine destroeyrs deplete shields like normal weapons. I think #1 will happen but did't check myself.

rdouglass December 18th, 2003 05:17 PM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
IIRC engine destroying weapons skip shields and armor (or have I missed a patch note...)

Loser December 18th, 2003 05:19 PM

Re: kamikaze ships
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rdouglass:
IIRC engine destroying weapons skip shields and armor (or have I missed a patch note...)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">They no longer skip shields. Very important.


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