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Vasiliy February 3rd, 2004 01:26 AM

How minesweeper work
 
Hi

Can ship with minesweeper modules to clean sector without the moving in this sector?

For example - there is the enemy mine field in the sector 4,1. Can minesweeper to destroy this mines, if the minesweeper stay in the sector 4,2?

Thanks

Slynky February 3rd, 2004 01:31 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vasiliy:
Hi

Can ship with minesweeper modules to clean sector without the moving in this sector?

For example - there is the enemy mine field in the sector 4,1. Can minesweeper to destroy this mines, if the minesweeper stay in the sector 4,2?

Thanks

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I THINK the only time you can sweep mines is moving INTO the sector. Staying still or moving out does no good.

Fyron February 3rd, 2004 01:33 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
You can issue them an order to sweep mines. Movement does not have to occur.

Baron Munchausen February 3rd, 2004 01:35 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Nope, you have to be in the sector to sweep. But please note there IS a 'sweep mines' button in the command bar. You can sweep the sector you are currently in without moving out and then moving back.

narf poit chez BOOM February 3rd, 2004 01:35 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
no. a minesweeper must move into the sector with the mines.

much to slow.

[ February 02, 2004, 23:36: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Vasiliy February 3rd, 2004 01:42 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Nope, you have to be in the sector to sweep. But please note there IS a 'sweep mines' button in the command bar. You can sweep the sector you are currently in without moving out and then moving back.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But how I can be in the sector with mines in the beginning of turn? I mean if minesweeper can not to clean all enemy mines in the sector than it will be destroyed. If ship can to clean 10 mines per turn and mine field consist from 20 mines ship will sweep out ten mines and be destroyed by elevens. Or may be I do not understand something?

Fyron February 3rd, 2004 01:49 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
A cloaked ship could fly into the sector and launch mines there. Or, a minelayer could attack your undefended planet, but not fire because it has no weapons, and launch mines. This is more of an issue with multiplayer games, as the AI is not as clever as human opponents. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Roanon February 3rd, 2004 02:16 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
There is a minesweep order, but it seems not work when the ship is not moving. Bug or feature?

Fyron February 3rd, 2004 02:19 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
You have tested the sweep mines button and it does not work? Since there is explicitly a button in the game GUI for this, it must have been intended to work. If ships have to be moving to sweep mines, then the sweep mines button is useless, so it must be a bug.

[ February 03, 2004, 00:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Baron Munchausen February 3rd, 2004 05:48 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Ah...

I see what it's supposed to be now. I've never bothered to use it before. We have misunderstood how the game is designed. That button is for issuing the AI 'move to' order just like the 'remote units deploy' or 'remote unit recover' buttons are for issuing the order that the AI would issue to send a ship to a specific location. So it seems you cannot sweep mines without moving! It sure would be nice to be able to sweep the location where you are currently located without leaving it. I wonder if we could get MM to change that at this late date???


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