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OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
Subject: Guard unit under fire!
Author: Mad Mike Date: 19 Apr 2004 04:12 PM Originally Posted: 19 Apr 2004 03:51 PM BOSTON -- National guard units seeking to confiscate a Cache of recently Banned assault rifles were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a paramilitary extremist faction. Military and law enforcement officials estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw. Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed widespread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently Banned assault weapons. Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting earlier this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially suceeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily armed extremists who had been tipped-off regarding the government's plan. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. *** Oh, I forgot to mention the year - that was April 19, 1775. Privately owned weapons. The best way to vote "no!" --- There are two sides to any debate. Mine, which is that my opponent is an idiot. And my opponent's, which is irrelevant because he's an idiot. --- "Freehold," January 2004 from Baen Books "The Weapon," Work in progress "The Hero" (with John Ringo), June 2004 from Baen Books http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com http://www.sharppointythings.com next reply quote Subject: Guard unit under fire! Author: Cheryl Daetwyler Date: 19 Apr 2004 03:58 PM Mike wrote: "BOSTON -- National guard units seeking to confiscate a Cache of recently Banned assault rifles were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a paramilitary extremist faction. Military and law enforcement officials estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw." Sometimes we need a reminder of just how we started. Cheryl next reply quote Subject: Guard unit under fire! Author: Mad Mike Date: 19 Apr 2004 04:14 PM --- There are two sides to any debate. Mine, which is that my opponent is an idiot. And my opponent's, which is irrelevant because he's an idiot. --- "Freehold," January 2004 from Baen Books "The Weapon," Work in progress "The Hero" (with John Ringo), June 2004 from Baen Books http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com http://www.sharppointythings.com next reply quote Subject: RE: Guard unit under fire! Author: Tim Covington Date: 19 Apr 2004 06:41 PM This is great. Mind If I post it to my LiveJournal? TimC -----Original Message----- From: baensbar Listmanager [mailto:baensbar.listmanager@bar.baen.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:54 PM To: Recipients of 'baensbar' suppressed Subject: Guard unit under fire! From: "Mad Mike" BOSTON -- National guard units seeking to confiscate a Cache of recently Banned assault rifles were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a paramilitary extremist faction. Military and law enforcement officials estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw. Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed widespread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently Banned assault weapons. Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting earlier this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially suceeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily armed extremists who had been tipped-off regarding the government's plan. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. *** Oh, I forgot to mention the year - that was April 19, 1775. Privately owned weapons. The best way to vote "no!" --- There are two sides to any debate. Mine, which is that my opponent is an idiot. And my opponent's, which is irrelevant because he's an idiot. --- "Freehold," January 2004 from Baen Books "The Weapon," Work in progress "The Hero" (with John Ringo), June 2004 from Baen Books http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com http://www.sharppointythings.com To reply: mailto:baensbar.367982@bar.baen.com To start a new topic: mailto:baensbar@bar.baen.com To login: http://207.203.146.227/WB/?boardID=Bar To (un)Subscribe: mailto:baensbar.list-request@bar.baen.com next reply quote Subject: RE: Guard unit under fire! Author: Mad Mike Date: 19 Apr 2004 08:23 PM >This is great. Mind If I post >it to my LiveJournal? > >TimC It's not mine. I don't know if there is a (c) holder. So go ahead. It's on many of the gun Boards. --- There are two sides to any debate. Mine, which is that my opponent is an idiot. And my opponent's, which is irrelevant because he's an idiot. --- "Freehold," January 2004 from Baen Books "The Weapon," Work in progress "The Hero" (with John Ringo), June 2004 from Baen Books http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com http://www.sharppointythings.com next reply quote Subject: RE: Guard unit under fire! Author: Tim Covington Date: 19 Apr 2004 09:53 PM Thanks -----Original Message----- From: baensbar Listmanager [mailto:baensbar.listmanager@bar.baen.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:26 PM To: Recipients of 'baensbar' suppressed Subject: RE: Guard unit under fire! From: "Mad Mike" >This is great. Mind If I post >it to my LiveJournal? > >TimC It's not mine. I don't know if there is a (c) holder. So go ahead. It's on many of the gun Boards. --- There are two sides to any debate. Mine, which is that my opponent is an idiot. And my opponent's, which is irrelevant because he's an idiot. --- "Freehold," January 2004 from Baen Books "The Weapon," Work in progress "The Hero" (with John Ringo), June 2004 from Baen Books http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com http://www.sharppointythings.com To reply: mailto:baensbar.368106@bar.baen.com To start a new topic: mailto:baensbar@bar.baen.com To login: http://207.203.146.227/WB/?boardID=Bar To (un)Subscribe: mailto:baensbar.list-request@bar.baen.com next reply quote Subject: RE: Guard unit under fire! Author: Richard Atkinson Date: 20 Apr 2004 01:35 AM Concord Hymn Ralph Waldo Emerson By the rude bridge that arched the flood. Their flag to April's breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood And fired the shot heard round the world. The foe long since in silence slept; Alike the conqueror silent sleeps; And Time the ruined bridge has swept Down the dark stream which seaward creeps. On this green bank, by this soft stream, We set to-day a votive stone; That memory may their deed redeem, When, like our sires, are sons are gone. Spirit, that made those heros dare To die and leave their children free, Bid Time and Nature gently spare The shaft we raise to them and thee. Sorry to be a little late with this but I couldn't get onto the Board earlier for some reason. Dick I've heard that lonely bugle's cry, a time or two or three, I know I'll hear that bugle cry, when they blow it for me. top reply quote edit delete Subject: Guard unit under fire! Author: NarfPoitChezBOOM ! Date: 20 Apr 2004 02:56 AM >BOSTON -- National guard units >seeking to confiscate a Cache >of recently Banned assault >rifles were ambushed on April >19th by elements of a >paramilitary extremist >faction. Military and law >enforcement officials estimate >that 72 were killed and more >than 200 injured before >government forces were >compelled to withdraw. You know, I think i've heard this before. In books where the US government is turning communist. I really hope it's just a rumor. mouse. small, innocuous, cartoony. highly dangerous. Watch this Topic Mark this topic read [ April 20, 2004, 07:10: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ] |
Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
There were no such things as "assault weapons" (they had rifles and pistols, no automated fire arms whatsoever) and the "national guard" (militias, yes, but not even an army until after 1776 and the US declaration of independence) back in 1775...
[ April 20, 2004, 07:05: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ] |
Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
Whoop, didn't notice that date. Guess the emergency's off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Excuse me, just laughing at myself. Alot.
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Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
actually, i think its poorly contrived propoganda. there were plenty of real life coup attempts prior to the civil war. why not focus on real history instead of this stuff?
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Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
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Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
Good one Narf.
Puke: Have you been sleeping through History class http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ? Whats not real in the story ? Fyron: "The National guard" of the story would be English troops. After all they was the legal rulers at the time, the republic not beeing proclaimed yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
ROFL, I didn't realize he thought it was serious. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Guess you caught the thread before he changed the title.
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"The National Guard" would be the local militas, the "Blue Coats". They would supplement the Kings "Red Coats" and provide local defense against the French or Indians. The republic was not yet proclaimed. BUT, it was a government in operation. Almost independant of England, but in operating Englands name. We had been left to fend for ourselfs and develop on our own. When we were ripe for the pickings, England got gready, too gready. The crazy King denied us the rights, status, and representation of English citizens. [ April 20, 2004, 22:15: Message edited by: Wardad ] |
Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
oops, where is that delete key
[ April 20, 2004, 22:16: Message edited by: Wardad ] |
Re: OT: Ok, there really is nothing to see here. Except me making a fool of myself.
I don't think you are supposed to take it literally Fyron. It's like a modern Version of how the story would have been written if it happened today.
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