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Black One January 6th, 2004 01:08 AM

What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
My friends are giving me hard time and saying that ermor is suprerior compared to other races. Is this just BullS**t or is it true?

NTJedi January 6th, 2004 01:31 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
ERMOR is not superior... it's death magic that is superior.

Death spells like Spirit Mastery, Ghost Riders, Tartarian Gate, Pale Riders, Burden of Time and more.

Lots of death magic sites allow you to recruit units as well just for having a death mage visit the site... lots more than the other magics.

During Arena matches Ermor wins 95% of the time because he has some powerful necromancer.

The artifacts for death magic are great too... Wraith Sword anyone ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Hana January 6th, 2004 01:36 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
I'm assuming you mean Ashen Empire Ermor. They play differently than other races, but as for them being superior... just see how quickly their large armies come apart when there are a few good priests around, or even fire mages. Just like (almost) everything else there's a counter for it. You just have to find it.

NTJedi January 6th, 2004 01:41 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hana:
I'm assuming you mean Ashen Empire Ermor. They play differently than other races, but as for them being superior... just see how quickly their large armies come apart when there are a few good priests around, or even fire mages. Just like (almost) everything else there's a counter for it. You just have to find it.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hana is correct... priests and archers will destroy most undead armies.

It's not Ermor that is powerful... it's death magic.

Lord Hammer January 6th, 2004 01:43 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Black One:
My friends are giving me hard time and saying that ermor is suprerior compared to other races. Is this just BullS**t or is it true?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Personally, i think Ermor is far superior but heh, i'm dead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . I have had almost all my experience with DOM2 playing variations of Ermor and have learned enough to conquer all opposition. That said, enough experience with "any" race could give you the same opinion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ."Death Magic" rocks, for sure...I can only say i had a HARD time against certain AI races when i was Ermor and could only imagine the punishment a "human" opponent could dish out making me feel..."not so superior" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif .

Bowlingballhead January 6th, 2004 02:01 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
I don't know I want to weigh in on whether death magic is strongest. I'll grant this - Burden of Time against an enemy that's not prepared to dispell it can be a game ender.

Ashen empire is definitely not unbeatable. Frankly, I think C'tis's Tomb Kings setting may be stronger. Sure, Ashen Empire has an almost unlimited number of undead, but they're so very, very, very weak - and it's a tremendous pain in the butt for Ashen Empire to branch out into any other form of magic, or even to research much.

Then too, your borders are weak. At least other races can buy up provincial defense and know it'll weed out spies, slow down invasions, and weaken incoming armies. Ashen Empire doesn't have the cash flow. When everybody's dead, they're not paying taxes.

Lord Hammer January 6th, 2004 02:25 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
Throw "Well of Misery" into that equation and who needs taxes? Besides, when you don't pay taxes you get..."Summons" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Get it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Now you have TONS of cannon fodder in EVERY province while your cranking out Uber-Summons every turn.If your Dominion is 9 or 10 you get much better freebie troops popping up plus...well...there are SO many strategies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Carefull use of tactics and planning is needed when playing against Holy opponents but Death is always near http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Bruhahahahahahaha!!!

Gandalf Parker January 6th, 2004 02:30 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
Of course Ermor is superior. It wipes the board in solo play against AIs. Let them think that until they get into a multiplayer game. No, thats a rude thought. Scratch that. Hopefully your friends figure out eventually that certain races such as Marignon is perfectly made to be the balance for Ermor. A human player who learns how to play Marignon will wipe Ermor. Other nations can do pretty well also.

Of course then they are bound to tell you that Ulm is way superior. Thats usually the second one. Or sometimes a water nation.

In any case, they will probably go thru each nation one at a time and find ways that they are excellent, and ways that they balance each other.

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In Dominions, if it looks like a killer strategy then look at it again carefully.
In Dominions, if it looks like a total waste then look at it again carefully.

SurvivalistMerc January 6th, 2004 04:27 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
Gandalf,

What nation easily wipes Pythium? Pythium seems rather superior to me. But then again I'm a novice.

January 6th, 2004 05:51 AM

Re: What do you think about ermor in dom2
 
There is no one nation that can 'wipe' Pythium. It is well balanced so it doesn't fall into that particular Category.

And you should say "Base Pythium" as opposed to the thematic.


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