Retrofit Problems
 

I had just defeated an Empire and was doing some mop up when I decided that my ships could use some upgrading before I took on my next enemy. Well 3 turns have passed and none of my ships have been repaired. At first I thought that the ships weren't being repaired because I did not have a spaceport in the system but none of my ships are being repaired. What's wrong? I am playing single player with 20 empires, now down to 17.

I tried a search for this problem and found nothing that relates to this. The game date is 2417.5.

Re: Retrofit Problems
 

The first obvious question is what is the repair capacity in that sector? This is can be found by counting up the repair capacities of all the Spaceyards (facilities plus spaceyard components on ships and bases) and Repair Bays on ships/bases in the sector. If you retrofitted a large number of ships/components with only 1 spaceyard, it may take many turns to complete all repairs.

Spaceyard Facility III repairs 5 components per turn
Spaceyard component III repairs 8 components per turn
Repair Bay III repairs 8 components per turn


Levels I and II of the above might repair less; I don't have a reference at hand right now.

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I have one spaceyard that will repair 5 components and three repair space stations that repair 24 componets each, for a total 77 components each turn. There are three ships at the planet that need a total of 35 components repaired.

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I can see you're new so maybe you're not playing on PBW, but have you taken over another game. Perhaps the player removed all his repair skills. I tried this out once for a race that built alot but never repaired anything. Also you said you just defeated an enemy, are the ships in question yours by reason of the enemy surreendering them to you. If they have unique tech you don't know you can't upgrade them. On second thoughts forget that one, if you don't know the tech you can't be upgrading it.

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Ok, 2nd question: Did the maker of your empire lower your Repair Aptitude when he/she created the empire? This can be checked by looking at your empire by clicking the alien head icon. You won't be able to see the exact percentage, but "pathetic" would be an indicator. This could have been lowered to gain empire points ( a common tactic) by down to 50% which would cut your repairs in half. You can see an exact number by saving the empire, then starting a new game and loading the empire as an "existing" empire to see the exact configuration.

edit: whoops Randallw already hinted at this, sorry.

edit2: are you sure that no repairs are occurring per turn at all? or could you be seeing a number less than expected? If there are no repairs happening at all, I'm not sure what's going on.

edit3: just to rule out another obvious one, you must have the ships in the same sector (same square on the system map) as the spaceyard/repair component(s).

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It is a single player game, so not Empire take over, I think; if it *is* the case though, go to the Options menu, and save up your Empire, then edit it in a new game. That would allow you to check all the Empire values and your happiness type: if the Empire you've just taken over isn't Peaceful, you want to know it *right now*. Trust me on that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Incidentally, you cannot repair components if you lack the technology to do so, but I doubt it is the problem here, since it was you who made the retrofits in the first place.

Re: Retrofit Problems
 

First off, look to see if you have the "Wrench" icon on your damaged and retrofitted ships. This means they are in a sector with repair capability. If you retrofitted them, that location must have a shipyard at least. If there is no "Wrench" icon, you will need to move the ships to a repair center, or move a repair center to the ships.

Take care if you upgrade the repair bases. If you do, they will be damaged and not add to the repair total. The default repair priority puts them close to last in line to get fixed as well.

If there is no wrench, they will not get repaired, and you must do something in-game to get a wrench to appear.

If there is a wrench, check again to see the numbers that are being repaired, especially the repair bases there if they were upgraded.

The lowest repair ability is still 50%. You can see what yours is by looking at the "My Empire" section of the aliens, or in the "Abilities" section of ships or planets and adding up all the bonuses.

Also, there is an old topic on repair breaking in the game. I bumped it. (The link was a long one.)

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I have used these repair stations before and they worked just fine. All the neccessary icons are there. My inability to repair started when I eliminated one of the empires I was at war with. I cannot move any of the ships because they are having their engines replaced as well. Looks like my current game is toast. After playing SEIV since it's release I'll just have to wait until SEV comes out to satisfy my galactic domination urges.

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Why not head over to PBW and try your hand and multiplayer while you wait? More players are always welcome, and The Galactic Invasion 2 game against the space monsters needs a replacement player...

Note: The specific game I mentioned uses the Adamant Mod, and the open position I believe belongs to a Nomad race, which is a very different style of play from stock. It's a cooperative game, though, so don't worry about being obliterated while still learning how things work.

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I've had a massive retrofit failure in my PBW game just now. I had 8 ships ordered to retrofit, but only one of them did so. There was only one "vehicle retrofit" message in the log. I had plenty of resources in storage. I've had retrofit orders ignored once before, but I attributed that to the possibility that I may have renamed my ships. This time there was no renaming involved. I saved the game prior to hitting "end turn" showing that I did indeed order 8 of my ships to retrofit, and I still have that save.

EDIT: None of the ships ordered to retrofit had cargo or were in fleets.