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bleach168 October 18th, 2006 10:05 PM

High PD kinda useless.
 
I'm playing Pythium and I have lots of money so I invest in PD usually up to 50-60 in provinces bordering my enemies.

Often, the enemy (in my case Machaka and Jotun) will send in a small force but have them flanking my rear. My PD should easily be able to handle the attack however my commanders often get killed usually by running towards the flanking units and fatally attacking them.

I suppose I could add extra commanders and have them guarded by extra troops but I feel this defeats the purpose of no upkeep PD.

Gandalf Parker October 18th, 2006 10:18 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
Not really. I tend to utilize the local units to pad my PD. For many that means a leader with archers set at a flank. For others that means a leader with cavalry set at a flank. Actually just a commander, with better orders, can help

bleach168 October 18th, 2006 10:22 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'm just frustrated that PD alone isn't enough and that you need to add extra commanders to have an effective defense.

Foodstamp October 18th, 2006 10:34 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
Some nations seem to get better returns for PD as well. I noticed that EA Arco PD is VERY effective.

Caduceus October 18th, 2006 10:35 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
I don't have much experience, but I have had good experience with the Arco PD.

Ballbarian October 18th, 2006 10:43 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
In Dom2, I set just about every province to 11 defense. In Dom3 I have found 21 to be reasonable. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Like Gandalf, I too compliment trouble spots with a local commander or two. In strategic choke points (if the gold is available) I crank it up to 30+, but that is rare and usually pretty late in the game.

Stryke11 October 18th, 2006 10:45 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
High PD for MA Ulm has never let me down. Although in my current Pythium game Mictlan of all nations routinely rolls my PD of 60+ and Oceania too. Makes me wonder if the money spent is worth it. I think out of maybe 15 attacks per turn to provinces undefended except for PD around 60, 2-3 are successful.

KissBlade October 18th, 2006 10:55 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
you should only build pd's at choke points and even then it's best to pad it up with one or two battle mages. I use pd often as chaff and anti call of the wind forces, nothing more.

Graeme Dice October 18th, 2006 11:02 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
[quote]
bleach168 said:
I'm playing Pythium and I have lots of money so I invest in PD usually up to 50-60 in provinces bordering my enemies.[/qutoe]

Are you aware that that much province defense is costing you 1830 gold? You could have bought 183 troops for that cost.

Gandalf Parker October 18th, 2006 11:55 PM

Re: High PD kinda useless.
 
Jotunheim gets a great return from PD. Since they are so expensive to maintain as an army. And a 6 in PD for them is equal to 11 for other nations

And no matter how you are swayed by this discussion ALWAYS put at least 1 into PD. If you dont then when it gets taken you wont know if it was an army or a scout because you will get no battle report on it.


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