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rfisher January 30th, 2007 09:57 PM

LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
I've made myself an SAS fighting column in the OOB editor, (ok, as far as realism goes, the battles are probably utter nonsense, but they are very cool!), but some (not all) of the SAS patrol units I've made fire their LAW 80s at some (again, not all) infantry units. I haven't messed around with any weapon stats, and they only have AP ammo. Have I stuffed something up while making these units?

Listy January 30th, 2007 10:09 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Nope. I believe the latest version of MBT has a weak HE value given to heat rounds.

rfisher January 30th, 2007 10:21 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
I did read that, but does it still apply as the ammo for these chaps is in the AP slot not the HEAT slot?

Smersh January 30th, 2007 11:03 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
what's an AP round on a LAW?

Listy January 31st, 2007 12:02 AM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Quote:

rfisher said:
I did read that, but does it still apply as the ammo for these chaps is in the AP slot not the HEAT slot?

LAWs have a 222 AP code. This is a special code that tells the computer to class the round as HEAT.

rfisher January 31st, 2007 05:47 AM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Thanks Listy, that's very helpful. It is a shame though as I'd like things like the LAW to be purely for armour so I don't have to turn them on and off every time I fire at infantry. Is there a good reason for this that I'm not seeing?

Smersh, what do you mean?

Marcello January 31st, 2007 09:45 AM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
"Is there a good reason for this that I'm not seeing?

Yes.In the real world HEAT based AT weapons are used against soft targets all the time.

Mobhack January 31st, 2007 03:14 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Quote:

Listy said:
Nope. I believe the latest version of MBT has a weak HE value given to heat rounds.

Of course it has - please read the release notes, in the release history section of the GG and also mentioned in the release blurb for the patch (see the sticky at the top of the forum posts).

GG -> Release History -> latest version is at the top -> item No. 7.

it is always a good idea to read this section of the GG on insstalling a new version!.

And an "AP" round with a 222 AP code is and always has been treated as a "HEAT" round because the original designers needed HEAT in slots 2-4 but had only provided one HEAT slot assigned to weapon 1 way back in about 1995 (I presume). See the Mobhack help file for more details on the 222 HEAT code.

Cheers
Andy

narwan January 31st, 2007 03:43 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Quote:

rfisher said:
Thanks Listy, that's very helpful. It is a shame though as I'd like things like the LAW to be purely for armour so I don't have to turn them on and off every time I fire at infantry. Is there a good reason for this that I'm not seeing?

Smersh, what do you mean?

AFAIK the last four HEAT rounds should be reserved for use vs armored targets only. So maybe that's why you see some units fire their law's at infantry and others not.

Narwan

Smersh January 31st, 2007 03:54 PM

Re: LAW 80 firing AP at infantry?!?!
 
Quote:

Smersh, what do you mean?

my comment was, that an LAW should have HEAT rounds not AP ammo. But it looks like this problem has already been answered.


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