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PyroStock September 24th, 2007 03:35 AM

Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted?
 
Two 2N1E Enchantresses each with a Crystal Matrix. With 5 Communion Slaves I script them for Strength of Gaia, Earth Power & 3 simple Charms. I also give one Nethgul as I'm curious to see if he would gain the communion master bonus and cast higher level spells. I have a 3rd communion master, a crystal mage (2E2S).
They go through their 5 script spells fine. The enchantresses cast their 2 last scripted charms and then the enemy casts their spells, only Falling Frost & Nether Darts. No enemies or danger near them. The 5 communion slaves are at 103&104 fatigue. My casting round begins with that rainbow "8" icon going over all communion slaves & the enchantress with Nethgul. This enchantress and the 5 communion slaves are blinked to different parts of the battlefield. The enchantress with Nethgul blinks into the middle of the enemy army where she is prompty killed. Two communion slaves are also killed from their new unfortunate positioning.

What happened? The crystal mage didn't cast blink and he never moved, but even if he did it shouldn't blink another communion master. There was no global spell up. The other enchantress didn't blink. It didn't say Nethgul casted blink, but he seems to be the prime suspect. Was this blink caused specifically by combining Nethgul with a Crystal Matrix or can Nethgul decide to quietly blink his holder in any situation?

Folket September 24th, 2007 05:33 AM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted?
 
What spells did Nethgul cast the first five times?

PyroStock September 24th, 2007 11:54 AM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted?
 
Before Communion Slave was up: Soul Slay & Mind Burn.
After Communion Slave was up: Mind Burns, Horror Mark & Body Ethereal. Nethgul also had 2 castings in a row each round, except immediately after this blink occurred it shows him only casting 1 Mind Burn.

sum1lost September 24th, 2007 02:02 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Single target spells will affect all members of a communion. Blink is single target, I believe.

llamabeast September 24th, 2007 02:41 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
I think single target spells only normally affect the caster and all the communion slaves, but not the other masters.

sum1lost, is that sum1won under a different name?

PyroStock September 24th, 2007 02:42 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Quote:

sum1lost said:
Single target spells will affect all members of a communion. Blink is single target, I believe.

That's also why I had my enchantresses cast earth power. But why would Nethgul, or any mage, cast an unscripted blink, especially when they have Range:100 spells? I'm guessing this is just some fluke for combining Nethgul with a Crystal Matrix and is not typical of communes or astral mages, unlike Touch of Madness with nature mages.

Jazzepi September 24th, 2007 02:50 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Nethgul isn't a mage. He's a brain in a jar. I've noticed his spell casting to be extremely random.

Jazzepi

sum1lost September 24th, 2007 02:56 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Quote:

llamabeast said:
I think single target spells only normally affect the caster and all the communion slaves, but not the other masters.

sum1lost, is that sum1won under a different name?

Yar.

I got whomped in chinchilla and jaguar, and will remain lost until I win one.

PyroStock September 24th, 2007 03:17 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
Nethgul isn't a mage. He's a brain in a jar. I've noticed his spell casting to be extremely random.

I thought the matrix may have warped Nethgul's cast list, but if it's just Nethgul then I'm surprised Nethgul wouldn't just get the standard AI astral cast list. Still doesn't explain why it wouldn't show him casting blink in battle when he did.

Note to self: Don't trust brains in jars.

Cor2 September 24th, 2007 04:43 PM

Re: Nethgul+Crystal Matrix: Can Nethgul Be Trusted
 
Quote:

sum1lost said:

Yar.

I got whomped in chinchilla and jaguar, and will remain lost until I win one.

No problem just play in in a game, autowin.


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