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RecruitMonty October 13th, 2007 12:30 PM

Kugelblitz and Company.
 
Evening all,

I have been toying with creating interim self propelled Flak units for my German OOB (Post entitled "Das Reich") and have hit a snag. I cannot model the Kugelblitz's turret. It is truly beyond my capabilities. I have tried using a Duster turret instead and it just looks awful. My attempts at making a Coelion and Super Coelion have turned out better but without the Kugelblitz the Mod will be alcking some decent affordable punch.

Can anyone help? I will post up my Coelions later as well as some reference photos of that damn Kugelblitz turret. Remember folks it has to fit on top of a Pz IV.

RecruitMonty October 13th, 2007 02:51 PM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
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Ok. This is for Plasmakrab.

First, the Wirbelwind Chasis, followed by some pictures of the Kugelblitz (something approaching top down) and finally containing the numerous attempts at a Coelion (yes one of those too) turret I made. Colour wise each seems a little odd to me and size wise, well you will see.

Nothing here worth downloading folks.

MarkSheppard October 14th, 2007 03:39 PM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
Did you know that there were essentially two Panther Coelians? A 2x37mm one and a 2 x 55mm One?

Plus, there were proposals to mount a MRLS launcher on a panther chassis.

PlasmaKrab October 14th, 2007 03:44 PM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
What about the "Super Coelian" or whatever it was called? Was it the Zwilling-55 Mark mentions or a derivate using a newer chassis, or something else still?

RecruitMonty October 14th, 2007 03:51 PM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
As far as I can tell it was a regular Coelian with twin 55s and a turret to accomodate them. I would put the turret on a Tiger II (Panther III) chasis.

MarkSheppard October 14th, 2007 11:37 PM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
The Kugelblitz turret was also proposed for installation on a Hetzer Chassis:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2...r38flakjn6.gif

There was also proposal for 105mm L68 gun in the Tiger II

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8...er105mmaa7.gif

MarkSheppard October 15th, 2007 12:20 AM

Re: Kugelblitz and Company.
 
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8...coelianbm8.gif
37mm Coelian

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/622/55mmcoelianqv8.gif
55mm Coelian

MarkSheppard October 15th, 2007 12:24 AM

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http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1...aubitzeom0.gif
Panther based SPH

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7082/gerat58qq8.gif
Open topped Flakpanzer Gerat 58

MarkSheppard October 15th, 2007 12:30 AM

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http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/104...rmortarsi9.gif
A Assault Mortar based on the Panther Chassis; replacement for the Brummbar?

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/606...hermrlsmy1.gif
MRLS based on Panther

oragus October 15th, 2007 12:23 PM

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Monty,

I might be able to help you out with this. I already have a pretty good Pz IV collection. The Kugelblitz is the one AA variant I hadn't done yet, but with the resources you have here, that shouldn't be too hard to do at all for me. All the Panther variants I can add to my set when I get to it, or I can go about and knock the Panther set out. Here is my newest Panzer IV set to date, that I'll base it from.


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