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Argitoth May 14th, 2008 10:26 PM

Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
Manifestation is overpowered for one reason and one reason only: Manifestations have a chance of attacking the commander regardless of how many units the commander is surrounded by. I just did a bunch of tests. Nothing so far gauranteed safety from Manifestation because the commander can be killed in one hit (I'm talking about mages of course). I think Manifestations should be set to "attack closest" to balance it out.

What do you others think?

Omnirizon May 14th, 2008 10:42 PM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
is manifestation the ritual that has a 50% chance of attacking a random commander in a province, otherwise it turns on the caster? it also is more likely to hit horror marked commanders.

Argitoth May 14th, 2008 10:51 PM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
It's 50% ***PER*** commander. If you cast manifestation on a province with 10 commanders, that means 10 50% checks. I've never had a problem with getting attacked by my own manifestation. Getting attacked by your own manifestation or not, it's still too deadly.

PvK May 14th, 2008 11:55 PM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
It's rather like other assassination methods that way, and one counter is stacking with non-vital targets (scouts, indy commanders, etc), no?

Baalz May 15th, 2008 01:20 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
Earth attack and disease demon are also fairly brutal depending on the circumstances. I don't think manifestation is any better.

Argitoth May 15th, 2008 01:24 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
Quote:

Baalz said:
Earth attack and disease demon are also fairly brutal depending on the circumstances. I don't think manifestation is any better.

You're only saying that because you didn't do any tests. You're going on basic assumptions of Dominions. I can say that protecting against an earth attack is very easy and manifestation is totally different.

sum1lost May 15th, 2008 01:25 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
I've had my manifester attacked by his manifestation.

You want to know what garuntees safety against it? Same thing as against any other assasian spell- its actually the easiest to defend against, to be honest.

Argitoth May 15th, 2008 01:30 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
sum1lost: it's easist do defend against an assassination? that statement confuses me for more reasons than one. What are you trying to say?

Endoperez May 15th, 2008 03:27 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
"Out of the assassination spells, Manifestation is the easiest to defend against" I'd wager.

Randvek May 15th, 2008 03:40 AM

Re: Manifestation is overpowerd.
 
Quote:

Argitoth said:
You're only saying that because you didn't do any tests. You're going on basic assumptions of Dominions.

So... where are the results of your testing?


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