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iCaMpWiThAWP September 6th, 2008 10:05 PM

Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
Wich one is the best? The only difference i have found btween them is that gliders land and para transports infantry jumps from

PanzerBob September 7th, 2008 12:53 AM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
Good day,

I'm sure you will get varying opinions on this one. Airborne Ops are probably one the most difficult to pull off. Make up of these missions should be tailored to the type of mission, terrain, and what opposition can be expected.

Generally speaking Gliders need room to land and in a lower threat environment can be useful to put troops more or less exactly where you want them. As well they can carry heavy loads like AT Guns and Jeeps, plus if carrying troops they will be able to rally better as they should be more or less together.

However, they seem easier to shoot down as well. Also landed gliders telegraph your position more readily. I’m not sure how much the AI uses this but rest assured a human Commander won’t miss this.

Transports on the other hand would be more advised on heavier defended areas no matter the terrain. Be aware that this mode of insertion will leave you with a much more scattered force and rallying them will be more difficult.

Bottom line is Airborne Ops should only tried if you feel that the causalities are worth it. With Western Allies and Germans if the conditions are right I'd tend to lean towards a glider heavy force so I can have the advantage of command control and some heavier weapons. However, I'd rather have my Paras or FJ's riding along with my Panzers.:fire:

I have never tried Airborne Ops with the Russians.

I know this is not a cut and dried answer, however neither are Airborne Ops.http://www.militaryimages.net/forums...ilies/1032.gif

Bob out :D

Sniper23 September 7th, 2008 04:14 AM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
i've tried para insertion twice,both failed,badly:(

iCaMpWiThAWP September 7th, 2008 09:26 AM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
My para insertions almost always fail, maybe because they're scattered all over the target area, my glide insertions are a bit more succesful, another question, do gliders take casualities on landing?

Cross September 7th, 2008 09:28 AM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
I agree with what PanzerBob said, and think as a rule of thumb you are better off with gliders as long as you have decent landing areas close to your objectives; and you can bring some heavier equipment along with gliders.

I have used both in PBEM games. A company of paratroops dropped in the enemy rear can cause a lot of havoc and confusion for your opponent.

One time I successfully got gliders down behind enemy lines, but they were a bit too far away from their objective to be really effective.

I've had a bridge stolen from right under my nose, by one opponents successful glider landing.

But although I'd give gliders the edge, they have a greater chance of failure. I had a glider land in some woods once, and a whole platoon was lost, no survivors.

I think SP reflects real life: it depends on the terrain and what you are trying to accomplish.

ps. I think a rough landing can cause casualites - like with paratroops - but not certain. I had a glider take casualties when it landed. It did not crash land, however I think another glider crashed into it while landing, but neither caught fire.

iCaMpWiThAWP September 7th, 2008 10:59 AM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
I played around and found out that gliders count as destroyed vehicles enven when they land OK, and i lost a mortar in a heavy landing, into a stone building :D gliders have the advantage of bringing equipment that is really iomportant, i landed some bazookas in the enemy's rear and struck their TDs, before my land forces could get to the objectives, the only enemy units were routed infantry and crews, oh, and when a plane/para transport/glider gets shot down is there a chance that its crew/cargo survives?

Sniper23 September 7th, 2008 12:57 PM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 637080)
I played around and found out that gliders count as destroyed vehicles enven when they land OK, and i lost a mortar in a heavy landing, into a stone building :D gliders have the advantage of bringing equipment that is really iomportant, i landed some bazookas in the enemy's rear and struck their TDs, before my land forces could get to the objectives, the only enemy units were routed infantry and crews, oh, and when a plane/para transport/glider gets shot down is there a chance that its crew/cargo survives?

transport's yes there's a chance of them getting out,as for glider's i don't know for sure but i think there are no servivores

iCaMpWiThAWP September 7th, 2008 01:41 PM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper23 (Post 637090)
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 637080)
I played around and found out that gliders count as destroyed vehicles enven when they land OK, and i lost a mortar in a heavy landing, into a stone building :D gliders have the advantage of bringing equipment that is really iomportant, i landed some bazookas in the enemy's rear and struck their TDs, before my land forces could get to the objectives, the only enemy units were routed infantry and crews, oh, and when a plane/para transport/glider gets shot down is there a chance that its crew/cargo survives?

transport's yes there's a chance of them getting out,as for glider's i don't know for sure but i think there are no servivores

i think the gliders only have survivors on landings, being shot down seems to kill'em all

Cross September 7th, 2008 03:07 PM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
I seem to recall having a transport place shot down once, and some of the paratroopers managed to get out before it hit the ground. But this was a long time ago, so could be wrong...

DRG September 7th, 2008 04:20 PM

Re: Gliders or Paratroop transport?
 
Paras will attempt to escape from a shot down transport

Don


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