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BadCompany September 28th, 2008 10:19 PM

How the.....
 
How could 2 noob 37mm polish AT-guns and a couple FT-7s wipe out my entire armored force in one turn???

This is a real blow in my Generated Germany vs Poland 1939 campaign.

I've lost my most expierenced tank crew with 93 exp. and 14 kills,3 other expierenced Panzer IIIs,and 6 Panzer IVs.This really pisses me off.

I almost wanted to cry. :(

PanzerBob September 29th, 2008 12:52 AM

Re: How the.....
 
Well BC,

This might not make you feel better, but Polish Army 37mm ATG's are nothing to take lightly at this stage of the war. German Armour was pretty much all susceptible to these most other Polish AT weapons. ATR bear watching out for as well.

I always find Poland a tough nut to crack. Keeping your armour out of reach of infantry and possible ATG hiding spots takes putting your infantry into harms way. Poland was not the push over some think and the game tends to remind one of this.

MMG's and arty (including PzIV's) come in handy against the Polish Army. I've even started the Campaign with a large Armoured Car Force backed with PzIV's. They're cheaper and more effective due to their speed and can handle most Polish Armour.

Other than that OUCH!!!:sick:

Bob out:D

Griefbringer September 29th, 2008 04:41 AM

Re: How the.....
 
Anti-tank guns were intended to destroy tanks - sounds like they did it succesfully here.

Tanks were not intended to fight anti-tank guns. It is usually not a good idea to drive your tanks within the sights of enemy anti-tank guns.

Griefbringer

valo2000 September 29th, 2008 04:45 AM

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Infantry rules. buy them they eat shells like nothing else. Tanks are just big targets and attract unwelcome arty attention.

iCaMpWiThAWP September 29th, 2008 06:43 PM

Re: How the.....
 
i'd use a diversionary fast vehicle to get througth their positions, or i use infantry to blow AT, sometimes a strafing plane if their position's too good, also tried mortars, but their supression isn't as good as with infantry, i remember once i tried a tank assault with mounted infatry, 3 37mm destroyed 13 of my tanks, and 7 apc/halftrack, at the cost of 1 of their ATs destroyed by sniper firing

BadCompany September 29th, 2008 07:23 PM

Re: How the.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PanzerBob (Post 641380)
Well BC,

This might not make you feel better, but Polish Army 37mm ATG's are nothing to take lightly at this stage of the war. German Armour was pretty much all susceptible to these most other Polish AT weapons. ATR bear watching out for as well.

I always find Poland a tough nut to crack. Keeping your armour out of reach of infantry and possible ATG hiding spots takes putting your infantry into harms way. Poland was not the push over some think and the game tends to remind one of this.

MMG's and arty (including PzIV's) come in handy against the Polish Army. I've even started the Campaign with a large Armoured Car Force backed with PzIV's. They're cheaper and more effective due to their speed and can handle most Polish Armour.

Other than that OUCH!!!:sick:

Bob out:D

Well I tend to stop near half of the map,and let the polish advance while I shoot them up to keep them at bay.In that battle I had decimated the polish(so I thought) and advanced my tanks up and was ambushed in a clearing.

deveen September 29th, 2008 08:26 PM

Re: How the.....
 
Suppress them with artillery and try to get infantry close to destroy them. Couple of snipers can be very effective as well, but there is nothing more effective than a squad of infantry one hex away.

PanzerBob September 30th, 2008 02:28 AM

Re: How the.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadCompany (Post 641597)

Well I tend to stop near half of the map,and let the polish advance while I shoot them up to keep them at bay.In that battle I had decimated the polish(so I thought) and advanced my tanks up and was ambushed in a clearing.

Ah the ol'beat the hell out of the infantry to lull the Panzers into the ambush gambit!:doh:

Bob out :D

iCaMpWiThAWP September 30th, 2008 07:42 PM

Re: How the.....
 
charge with infantry, the problem with the modern armies is that they use their ultratech stuff thinking that thei're invincible MWHAHWAHWAWHA, i like my cheap stuff, while the enemy gets ultra expensive AT weapons and tanks to see my infantry charge, i also found a good way to keep my better units alive, i buy some reserve infantry and put them at the first wave, to soften up the target, test their defenses, and to avoid losing my experinced troops

iCaMpWiThAWP September 30th, 2008 07:44 PM

Re: How the.....
 
maybe a blitzkrieg stile attack can breach whatever defenses encountered


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