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chrispedersen May 5th, 2009 12:16 PM

Oh the Horrors
 
Horrors don't work well against:

Glamored troops (the glamor cuts down on the amount of hp recovered).

Undead troops {with certain exceptions; low morale undead for example}

Indies with nature mages (tangle vines/vine arrows)

Net troops.

Troops with magic/AoE attacks - winterwolves etc. Agarthan Seal Guards. Caelum ice lances etc.

Van PD once orb lightning researched.

They work OK

Berserk troops.
Underwater

OTherwise, they work pretty well


Tactics Against Horrors:

1. Retake emptied provinces with stealthy scouts, or other commanders.

2. Against spammed horrors: (2 or more): Horror Mark. Astral Geysir. Swarm.
Horror mark targets Large/High hp first. Geysir, being AoE doesn't.

What else should go here?

P3D May 5th, 2009 01:51 PM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
The fear effect of horrors still works against undeads with "lower" morale. Like Vampires.

Illuminated One May 5th, 2009 01:51 PM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
If you know your enemy likes to call horrors as backup for his army just assemble a large horror-vulnerable army and script them to hold hold retreat? :D

That said I wouldn't like to use horrors together with a large army.

P3D May 5th, 2009 02:04 PM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
Horrors in not adequate numbers have problems against some archer-heavy PD.

Sauromatian PD is good against them - cavalry with lances.

Horrors are not Poison immune either. Did I mention Sauromatia?

Jarkko May 6th, 2009 02:57 AM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
In my opinion the best counter vs Horrors is Astral Geysir. Of course you need access to Astral mages for it, but if you have them, then your opponent will attempt exactly one time to use Horrors against you. It is not nice to be eaten by Horrors you yourself called :( Plus AI seems to like to target horrors with the Geysir, so the horrors end up fighting themselves (always a nice view to watch :P).

chrispedersen May 6th, 2009 11:02 AM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
Yeah Geysir's on the list but geysir often *misses*

Tolkien May 7th, 2009 09:41 AM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
I've never heard of Astral Geysir before.

Jarkko May 7th, 2009 10:35 AM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolkien (Post 689711)
I've never heard of Astral Geysir before.

Ok, perhaps you are a grammar nazi and thus correct: The spell is actually called Astral Geyser :)

If you meant you've never heard of Astral Geyser (no matter if it is spelled right or wrong ;) ), then check the Level 5 Evocation spells :) It is not obvious from the description, but it adds a +2 Horror mark on the target.

Tolkien May 7th, 2009 10:45 AM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
Oh, they meant astral geyser. :p

And yes, I am.

You could also spam paralyze/soul slay (with high penetration items and high astral levels). It was what you were to paralyze the Abomination of Desolation when I summoned him, that one battle.:(

llamabeast May 7th, 2009 12:20 PM

Re: Oh the Horrors
 
Quote:

It was what you were to paralyze the Abomination of Desolation when I summoned him, that one battle.
Alert! Grammar horror! ;)


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