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chrispedersen December 27th, 2009 06:41 PM

Does Anyone know
 
Suppose:

Shaman1-4 have slave matrixes
Shaman 5 has a Communion Master, and an eye of aiming.

Will the slaves get the benefit of the aim?

Micah December 27th, 2009 07:00 PM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
Pretty sure the eye provides an item bonus, not an auto-cast buff.

vfb December 27th, 2009 07:15 PM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
You can tell whether it's an auto-cast buff or an item bonus by looking at your unit outside combat. If you see the effect outside combat, it's not an auto-cast buff.

For example, wear Copper Plate. You see the SR immediately, but there's no Charge Body until you head into a battle.

Quitti December 27th, 2009 10:35 PM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
any 'Onebattle spell' effects that only target the master will target the slaves, so for example having a Lantern shield that casts corpse candle as onebattle spell does not make all the slave equally cast the spell or gain the benefit of it (makes sense, right). Effects that only affect the 'caster' (ie. the holder of item) transfer to slaves. Copper plate is one of these, as vfb said. There are some items that I have no idea if their effects transfer, most being artifacts (like Armor of Virtue returning, which is set as onebattle spell).

vfb December 27th, 2009 10:58 PM

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Virtue is AoE 1, not caster. So it doesn't hit the communion slaves, but it does hit anyone who remains in the wearer's square in the first turn of the battle. Also note that the wearer does not get the Returning effect if he moves off his square in the first turn of battle!

chrispedersen December 27th, 2009 11:05 PM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
What other items provide boni that could be transferred to slaves?

vfb December 28th, 2009 12:16 AM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
Only items with non-BE/BF, non-summoning, caster-targeting OBS:

Copper plate, as mentioned above.

Bell of Cleansing: Not sure if this is a caster effect. Maybe.

Crystal Shield: I'm pretty sure you'll get PoTS on the slaves with this one.

Sandals of the Crane: Yes! Insta-blink on the communion, woo hoo! :D

The Black Mirror: Grants Disbelieve. If that's AoE 0 on the caster, slaves get it too. Not exactly anything to go crazy about.

That's it, I think.

chrispedersen December 28th, 2009 02:42 AM

Re: Does Anyone know
 
I suspect the effects would go in slot order, so armor before misc.,. So copper plate would be cast before the communion master.

However, interesting idea

Eye of the void lets you dispel illusion.
Equip crystl matrix, eye of the void, script blinkx5... wonder if you could end a MoD that way...

Bell of Cleansing lists itself as the castor....

Gregstrom December 28th, 2009 05:07 AM

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They don't go in the conventional slot order. Matrix + Crystal Shield works just fine, IIRC.

Quitti December 28th, 2009 06:54 AM

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Quote:

Bell of Cleansing: Not sure if this is a caster effect. Maybe.
Yeah, I doubt it'll work. Same would be with spirit helmet and Scutata Volturnus then, and quite possibly nethgul/carcarator


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