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militarist January 17th, 2010 08:48 PM

blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Hello. Newbie question again :)
Hired VanJarl, got some slaves. Started to do blood sacrifice in home province. Initially dominion level was 4. It still remains 4, and VanJarl is still in state of sacrificing. Why it's not increasing? Is my dominion level is limited by initial dominion maximum level selected during pretender desin?

vfb January 17th, 2010 09:03 PM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Max dom in a province = (starting dom + (temples /5 )), with a maximum of 10. Random events can bump you over your max.

militarist January 17th, 2010 11:02 PM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
So by sacrificing I can only increase it to this max?

thejeff January 18th, 2010 12:01 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Right, until you build more temples.

But, sacrificing will cause dominion to spread out to other provinces, so it's still worthwhile.

vfb January 18th, 2010 01:16 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Oh yeah, if you can preach, you can preach over your dom limit too. The 'max' above is only for dom spread (temples/god/prophet/cap/dom spread units), not for preaching.

Ink January 20th, 2010 10:13 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
but max dom from preaching is H level, plus one if temple in province, right? that's not going to go far.

SlipperyJim January 20th, 2010 10:29 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thejeff (Post 726802)
But, sacrificing will cause dominion to spread out to other provinces, so it's still worthwhile.

This point is very important, and it's easy to miss. Dominion spread in a province that already has max dominion will "flow" out to other provinces.

Think of provinces as an ice cube tray. (Link provided in case anyone has forgotten what an ice cube tray looks like.) When one cube is filled to capacity, water will start to flow into the neighboring cubes. When you're filling an ice cube tray, you can simply pour the water into one cube, and the "flow" will take care of filling the entire tray.

In much the same way, dominion spread in a province that already has max dominion will "flow" out to neighboring provinces. If those provinces are also at max dominion, then the "flow" will continue until it reaches a province that is below the max. Please note that this principle does not apply to dominion gained through preaching. Preachers only affect the dominion score in provinces where they are actually preaching. However, it applies to all other forms of dominion spread, including:
  • temple checks
  • your Pretender
  • your prophet
  • blood sacrifice
Other types of dominion spread, such as juggernauts, can also influence neighboring provinces. Basically, it applies to everything except preaching.

Swan January 20th, 2010 10:31 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
That's why dominion spreading is a good way to kill low level dominion enemies.

Sombre January 20th, 2010 10:33 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Except it doesn't work like an ice cube tray. Dominion can jump over any province which has friendly dominion. It doesn't have to be full.

This can be observed easily by starting a new game with dom 10. You never have to wait for the dom in a province to reach 10 before it 'spills over' into the adjoining ones.

That said it is /more likely/ to spill over once provinces are at full dominion, because it has nowhere else to go.

Amonchakad January 20th, 2010 10:45 AM

Re: blood sacrifice newbie question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 727284)
Except it doesn't work like an ice cube tray. Dominion can jump over any province which has friendly dominion. It doesn't have to be full.

This can be observed easily by starting a new game with dom 10. You never have to wait for the dom in a province to reach 10 before it 'spills over' into the adjoining ones.

That said it is /more likely/ to spill over once provinces are at full dominion, because it has nowhere else to go.

If it's not outdated, the manual provides a specific formula for this: the chance of a dom increase in a province which has already friendly dominion is
30%-(3%*X)
where X is the current dom level of the province. If that chance fails, it "spills" to a neighbouring province, where it attempts again.


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