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sansanjuan February 12th, 2010 01:39 AM

Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
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So.. by means of unmitigated idiocy (weeping and gnashing of teeth here ) My woefully unprepared Lord of Rebirth ends up going toe to toe with the Eater of Dreams. He loses. Oh well... I have twiceborn on and I'm in my on Dominion.... but he doesn't show up back at my cap! What's up with that? I swear I've used it successfully on a Crone before. Might it be because he died from a horror effect? I think was also tagged with cursed luck at the time (pic attached.. never seen it before and never want to again). Holler if I'm just missing something simple about twiceborn. Logfile is attach too.
-ssj

--- last two lines (log search showed no mention of "twiceborn")
damage 9999 on Lord of Rebirth, spec0x0 ba0
looseallitems: cnr 731(Kilter) unr 9905

sansanjuan February 12th, 2010 01:43 AM

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Log file was too big. RAR'ed
-ssj

Makinus February 12th, 2010 05:23 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
There was frindly dominion in the place of the battle? If i remember correctly twiceborn only works if the unit dies in a friendly dominion (i. e. at least 1 candle).

Sombre February 12th, 2010 08:32 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.

WingedDog February 12th, 2010 08:44 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
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Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 731147)
I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.

Nah, I just reprodused the situation.
Horrormarked Lord of Rebirth in friendly dominion, with twiceborn cast, under Dome of Corruption got killed by Hunter of Heroes and was revived as wight (to get killed very same turn by 2 lesser horrors:)).

cleveland February 12th, 2010 09:03 AM

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The Lord of Rebirth has to approve all requests for Rebirth.

vfb February 12th, 2010 09:54 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 731154)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 731147)
I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.

Nah, I just reprodused the situation.
Horrormarked Lord of Rebirth in friendly dominion, with twiceborn cast, under Dome of Corruption got killed by Hunter of Heroes and was revived as wight (to get killed very same turn by 2 lesser horrors:)).

I looked at the debug output and it's kind of weird. The god dies to the 999-damage "swallow your soul" attack, then takes a couple more hits. He's dead, but the battle runs for one more turn, and his sword aura tries to damage him and the Eater. Then the god is just deleted from the battlefield. Looks like some kind of bug with the "Soul Eating" attack most likely.

sansanjuan February 12th, 2010 10:04 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
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Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 731147)
I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.

Good to know... :hurt:

Thanks all for looking into it.
-ssj

nordlys February 12th, 2010 11:40 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
I had a similar case when one of the Kindly Ones slain a twiceborned Gyjga of mine in the capitol. Gyjga was never reborn as well.

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I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.
This could explain no twiceborn firing, but it doesn't sound right at all. Particularly for plain assassinations. How could a commander's bedroom be outside the god's dominion? Disputable for special attacks like those happening within some dreamscape, depends on the context I guess.

sansanjuan February 12th, 2010 11:42 AM

Re: Lord of Rebirth Miscarriage with Twiceborn
 
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Originally Posted by WingedDog (Post 731154)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 731147)
I think special battles and assassinations take place outside of all dominion.

Nah, I just reprodused the situation.
Horrormarked Lord of Rebirth in friendly dominion, with twiceborn cast, under Dome of Corruption got killed by Hunter of Heroes and was revived as wight (to get killed very same turn by 2 lesser horrors:)).

Just read this more closely.
I had 5 white candles in the prov where I was attacked and had no second attack sequence. Perhaps WAD for the soul consumption as v found in the log.

C- it is a bit ironic isn't it. One can imagine some low level bureaucrat at the dept of rebirth...
"I'm sorry sir but the paperwork has no provision for you to signoff on your own rebirth..."
ssj


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