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ghoul31 February 13th, 2011 10:41 PM

undead question
 
Are undead units immune to death magic? Like drain life,bane fire,hand of death,disintigrate,cloud of death?

Doo February 13th, 2011 10:47 PM

Re: undead question
 
Not to this spell.

brxbrx February 13th, 2011 10:58 PM

Re: undead question
 
they still get decay, I don't know if it manages to kill them.

generally, a spell will say if it affects or doesn't affect lifeless, etc.

ghouls may well be subject to drain life, for example, because they aren't lifeless. idk. someone who knows more will come along soon enough

ghoul31 February 13th, 2011 11:01 PM

Re: undead question
 
Also, do any of those spells work on lifeless or mindless targets?

brxbrx February 13th, 2011 11:27 PM

Re: undead question
 
mindless, yes. lifeless, no.

Taqwus February 13th, 2011 11:32 PM

Re: undead question
 
Cloud of Death, Disintegrate, and Banefire are quite indiscriminate in terms of what units they can hurt.

Valerius February 14th, 2011 02:15 AM

Re: undead question
 
I ran some tests and, as mentioned, disintegrate and banefire seem to kill everything. Undead, lifeless - doesn't seem to matter. Same for hand of death (tough to use though because it requires such close proximity to the target).

However, I couldn't get cloud of death to cast against undead units and when I mixed normal units into the formation the undead units weren't effected so I don't believe cloud of death has any effect on undead. Actually, I think this spell is not infrequently used *with* undead troops since they won't be hit by friendly fire.

As mentioned, drain life will work on many undead - but not lifeless ones.

Dust to dust is a nice single target anti-undead spell. Wither bones does less damage but has a large AOE and can be devastating.

And of course if it's late game you could try undead mastery...

PS - Don't forget banishment, especially against undead that have low/average MR.

Taqwus February 14th, 2011 05:38 AM

Re: undead question
 
Hmm. Might be right on CoD; I'm not very heavy on death casters in my current game so I haven't seen it used for a while.

On a related note, undead will also ignore the disease effects from certain death magic (leprosy bombardment, say), generally can ignore decay (since they tend to have high maximum ages) and tend to be pretty resistant to fear effects (most being either mindless and completely immune, or good morale/good MR... ghouls might be an exception), and also perform perfectly fine under Darkness and Rigor Mortis. Poison is also an obvious complement, since undead tend to be completely immune.

brxbrx February 14th, 2011 06:27 AM

Re: undead question
 
speaking of decay, how does that work with the boots of youth, or the elixir of life?

Soyweiser February 14th, 2011 07:45 AM

Re: undead question
 
While Cloud of Death doesn't work on undead, a variant of it does. Leeching darkness.

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Leeching_Darkness

The spells look rather identical, so I think that is where the confusion came from.


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