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earwicker7 March 2nd, 2011 10:04 PM

Counter to flaming arrows...
 
As the title says. I need one.

kianduatha March 2nd, 2011 10:07 PM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Storm, Mist, Rain, Arrow Fend, proper positioning of shielded troops to affect who the AI targets with the bows, flying troops with attack archers to tie up the archers, any battlefield-wide spell like Rain of Stones or Earthquake or even something like Foul Vapors.

LDiCesare March 3rd, 2011 08:07 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
That and darkness and fire resistance spells, or Will of the Fates and the like. Army of gold should be quite good but it's pretty late game.
Depends on your nation and magic research. If you're in a hurry against a given opponent, you may want to provide specific details to see what can be used fastest, otherwise any of the above would help.

Soyweiser March 3rd, 2011 09:17 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Rain? how does rain stop arrows?

Corinthian March 3rd, 2011 10:59 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Rain should theoretically kill the caster because of the doubled fatigue. But in practice, you can never get more than 200 fatigue from your own casting so it is worthless.

Also, has anyone actually seen any effect from Mist? I could swear that the units still fired like normal at their normal range when I tried it.

kianduatha March 3rd, 2011 03:29 PM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
I dunno, I wasn't thinking at the time. But at least it will keep the burning damage down I guess! And if someone is fielding Flaming Arrows they are probably also throwing other fiery things at you. Fire Fend is a really good idea though.

rcook12a March 4th, 2011 05:32 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Mist and Storm reduce precision so lots more arrows miss thier targets. Storm cuts precision in half and I forget how much Mist reduces precision but it has a similar affect on archers.
They won't stop the flaming part but missing arrows are better than those that hit.

Kobal2 March 4th, 2011 10:38 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcook12a (Post 772370)
Mist and Storm reduce precision so lots more arrows miss thier targets. Storm cuts precision in half and I forget how much Mist reduces precision but it has a similar affect on archers.
They won't stop the flaming part but missing arrows are better than those that hit.

That only works if an arrow deviating wildly has no chance to hit anything. If you're fielding a big army, even with 10 squares of missage an arrow will hit something. Mist really only works in small skirmishes, or if your army is entirely made up of small, widely spaced clumps of powerful troops/mages.

Soyweiser March 4th, 2011 10:43 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Well it does increase the chance of friendly fire. But I don't know if it does that enough to really matter.

llamabeast March 4th, 2011 10:55 AM

Re: Counter to flaming arrows...
 
Storm is a good counter because it not only halves the precision but also half the arrows actually disappear in the storm!

Mist halves precision too and is cumulative with Storm. Very low precision archers (maybe prec 2 or 3!) are pretty poor.

Rain will put out any of your troops who get set on fire. It's quite a marginal benefit.


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