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iamofage December 14th, 2011 06:09 AM

Greed for slave collar
 
My prophet was greedy indeed, couldn't resist to loot that slave collar carried by some even dumber druid (mercenary Master Druid). I guess slaying a retarded druid doesn't feel accomplished enough...Anybody actually tricked another player's early rush pretender into picking up a slave collar? :p

brxbrx December 14th, 2011 10:32 AM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
I thought looting cursed items was patched out (you'd think they could just put them in their bag for later examination).
If you're blood, the only way to salvage the situation is to make the gift of Kurgi and give it to him.

Soyweiser December 14th, 2011 01:05 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
How does that solve the situation?

iamofage December 14th, 2011 03:10 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
Got the latest patch installed, why is a master druid mercenary wearing a slave collar anyways lol, doesn't make any sense.

Oh well, my prophet has lived long enough to get +5 attack skill from staying in the hall of fame. I guess even though it's bad to have a slave collar on a guy with any magic skill, but it gives you the comfort to send him on suicide Thug missions. He's got 21 attack skill and 19 defense without any artifacts, but only meager 13 hp on neutral dom. Anything other than gift of health that could increase his hp, preferably an item?

Doo December 14th, 2011 04:40 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
No items boost hp. Can healers fix item induced injury? Or the chalice?

There are two hall of fame bonuses that grant extra hp, the obesity one and a general extra hp one.

Personally, I'd just suicide the guy. Just beware to collar doing the rounds :)

shatner December 14th, 2011 05:29 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doo (Post 790837)
Can healers fix item induced injury? Or the chalice?

Afflictions caused by items can be cured like normal provided the item has been removed. For example, handing a rod of the leper king will cause the equipped unit to become diseased. If you put the rod back in the lab, the unit remains diseased but that affliction can be healed like normal. If you give a unit the black heart, since the black heart can't be removed you can never heal the unit's chest wound.

I think the same is true of default afflictions for pretenders (i.e. you can't cure the Forge Lord's limp or the Allfather's missing eye), though I'm not 100% on that.

brxbrx December 14th, 2011 09:41 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 790816)
How does that solve the situation?

Doesn't solve it, but you can make an SC out of him

Deathblob December 14th, 2011 09:52 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brxbrx
I thought looting cursed items was patched out

You can always pick up cursed items dropped by friendly units (including mercs).

Quote:

Originally Posted by brxbrx
If you're blood, the only way to salvage the situation is to make the gift of Kurgi and give it to him.

If you can forge Kurgi, you are better off not giving it to a guy who can't survive single combat with a lesser horror.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shatner
I think the same is true of default afflictions for pretenders (i.e. you can't cure the Forge Lord's limp or the Allfather's missing eye), though I'm not 100% on that.

That's not true. Pretender afflictions, including initial afflictions, can be cured just like normal unit afflictions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doo
Personally, I'd just suicide the guy. Just beware to collar doing the rounds

This. And since he's in the HOF, when he dies you could even make a H3 mummy out of him, assuming you'll eventually get the Chalice or GoH.

Knai December 15th, 2011 01:15 AM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shatner (Post 790842)
I think the same is true of default afflictions for pretenders (i.e. you can't cure the Forge Lord's limp or the Allfather's missing eye), though I'm not 100% on that.

You can cure them, no problem. If you are playing Arcocephale it isn't even expensive to do so.

Jack_Trowell December 15th, 2011 12:57 PM

Re: Greed for slave collar
 
One way to remove a cursed item is to change unit type to another with different slots, such as with the transformation spell (or by being a shapechanger in the first place)

The other solution is to die and be reborn:
- immortal unit diying in dominion
- god killed and brought back by priests
- using twiceborn to came back as a wigth mage
- coming back as a mummy (hall of fame hero only)


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