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sachmo July 15th, 2002 04:53 PM

Drone questions!
 
Still a newbie, so I get to ask silly questions!

1. Is there a way to group drones? I know they can't be fleeted, but if the only way to move them is with shift-click, doesn't that mean that when they attack a fleet, they will enter combat one at a time??

2. I tested my drones in a simulation against an enemy ship with only missiles and PD weapons. In the simulator, he moved into attack range, but was unable (or unwilling) to fire at the drones. Are they like satellites in that respect, or was it an AI problem?

3. Do drones have accuracy, or do they always hit?

4. If I create a drone with an anti-planet warhead, can I attack any planet not controlled by me, or does it have to have an enemy colony on it?

Thanks!

Q July 15th, 2002 06:35 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
1.) Yes if you group them, they will attack at the same time.
2.) Missiles can't target drones in the unmodded game, but the point defense cannons should fire automatically when the drones come into their range. Are you sure they were in range of the PDC??
3.) As far as I know ramming hits always.
4.) You cannot ram or attack allies.

sachmo July 15th, 2002 08:34 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Q:
1.) Yes if you group them, they will attack at the same time.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry, misread. So, if you shift-right click, drones will all attack at the same time? This is different from ships grouped in the same way, IIRC. I guess I will experiment with this sometime soo.

[ July 15, 2002, 19:49: Message edited by: sachmo ]

geoschmo July 15th, 2002 08:40 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Q:
1.) Yes if you group them, they will attack at the same time.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have heard this before, but I don't use drones much. This does work? My experience with ships that were not fleeted was that they attack seperatly, so I expected this to not work. If it doesn't work though it would be bad for the drones, so I suppose he must have changed that specifically. My tests were all pre-Gold. Hey maybe non-fleeted ships will attack simultaneously now. I should test that again.

Geoschmo

Q July 15th, 2002 08:55 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
To confirm it once more:
In SE IV Gold Version 1.67 drones that are grouped (by right clicking) will attack together not individually.

[ July 15, 2002, 19:55: Message edited by: Q ]

Baron Munchausen July 15th, 2002 09:10 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Q:
1.) Yes if you group them, they will attack at the same time.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have heard this before, but I don't use drones much. This does work? My experience with ships that were not fleeted was that they attack seperatly, so I expected this to not work. If it doesn't work though it would be bad for the drones, so I suppose he must have changed that specifically. My tests were all pre-Gold. Hey maybe non-fleeted ships will attack simultaneously now. I should test that again.

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In a simultaneous mode game I think that even drones will only attack 'together' if they have the same movement rate. And similarly ships must have the same movement rate. If you use shift-click in sequential mode to move several things -- ships, fleets, units -- they move together the first turn, but then move seperately after the first turn.

sachmo July 15th, 2002 09:39 PM

Re: Drone questions!
 
Awesome! thanks a ton, guys!

Q July 16th, 2002 11:16 AM

Re: Drone questions!
 
Just my observation in a turn based game:
Group of a ship with 12 movement points and a drone of 11 movement points given an attack order to a target that is 12 sectors away. The group will move 11 sectors together and then stop. The ship will not use its remaining movement point.

[ July 16, 2002, 10:18: Message edited by: Q ]

Atrocities July 16th, 2002 11:34 AM

Re: Drone questions!
 
You people have actually used drones? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I guess I am a moron. I could not get them to work. Or at least I didn't try very hard to get them to work. I will have to try it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

steveh11 July 16th, 2002 11:47 AM

Re: Drone questions!
 
I'm still not convinced of their utility, but I'm willing to try again in my new Proportions 2.3 game - it's possible to build up a useful stockpile of such things in that.
Steve.


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