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gregebowman August 21st, 2002 05:14 PM

1.78 problem?
 
I started a new game Last night, and 3 of the AI races had some info missing from the AI settings file. I don't remember all of the error Messages, but one was something about if ships would move through a mine field. There were about 8-10 of these error message per race. I had just recently downloaded these races, and was wondering if the 1.78 patch would cause these races to have these errors. I just copied those lines from another race and added it to the settings file for each affected race, and that solved the problem. Of course, I don't know what the original race would have done in those situations. Has anyone else run into this situation?

Q August 21st, 2002 06:47 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
These races must have been created with an earlier Version than 1.67. Probably even standard SE IV (= pre-gold). I had no error Messages with all my races I used in Version 1.67 when I installed the new patch and converted to Version 1.78.

gregebowman August 21st, 2002 08:22 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
I thought that was the problem. However, the description of the race didn't mention which Version of SEIV (or earlier Version) it was created for. So if that happens again, what should I do? Just copy lines from another modern file? How can you convert old races to the new Version?

sachmo August 21st, 2002 08:57 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I thought that was the problem. However, the description of the race didn't mention which Version of SEIV (or earlier Version) it was created for. So if that happens again, what should I do? Just copy lines from another modern file? How can you convert old races to the new Version?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If I were at home, I could give you the lines you needed to add. I'll try and get them when posted when I get home...it's not a big deal at all.
Also, someone has a program that will convert ai files from .49 to .68...it's in their signature!

Q August 21st, 2002 08:59 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Yes you did perfectly the right thing: copy the lines from an "up to date" race. You still may change it later ,if you see that it does not fit to the new race (which is quite rare) and then you are already in the modding business http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

gregebowman August 21st, 2002 10:24 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Ok, thanks guys. It seemed the only thing to do, so that's why I copied those lines. I'd like to see those lines, however, so if you can post them, I'd appreciate it.

dumbluck August 21st, 2002 11:23 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
In the error message, it tells you which lines are missing, doesn't it?

sachmo August 22nd, 2002 03:39 AM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Ahhhh, home!

Here are the lines I add to race_ai_settings.txt. They get me past all of those errors:

Ships don't move through minefields := false
Ships don't move through restricted systems := false
Clear orders on encounter enemy := false
Clear orders on encounter all := false
Percentage of total satellites to keep as planetary cargo := 40
Percentage of total drones to keep as planetary cargo := 40
Number Of Anti-Ship Drones Per Target := 3
Number Of Anti-Planet Drones Per Target := 3
Maximum Anti-Ship Drone Target System Distance := 5
Maximum Anti-Planet Drone Target System Distance := 5

Obviously, you can change the values to you liking, but these should get the errors to stop appearing. Good luck!

gregebowman August 22nd, 2002 04:04 AM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Well, like I said, it said such and such error occurred. So I compared a race that wasn't giving me an error to the race that was, and I discovered that several lines were missing from the older race. So I just copied the lines from the new race to the older one, and no more errors occurred.

oleg August 22nd, 2002 02:26 PM

Re: 1.78 problem?
 
Even though error Messages disappear, AI is still deficient (it is apparently pre-Gold). For example it will not use drones. You can copy all AI files (exept for AI_general.txt) from some Gold adjusted race (from TDM for example) with same race traits. It should improve race' AI dramaticaly.


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