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Zoompet October 10th, 2002 10:49 PM

When to attack
 
Given the best set of circumstances, when is the best time to attack, and what are the most important factors to consider?

Arkcon October 10th, 2002 11:09 PM

Re: When to attack
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Zoompet:
Given the best set of circumstances, when is the best time to attack, and what are the most important factors to consider?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm. Interesting question. So many variables. OK, I play this way -- after the AI opponent has declared war. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif 'Course, I've been preparing for this eventuality and intend to carry it to the bitter end - their destruction and my occupation of their territory. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

Helps to know what targets to hit. You can probe their defenses with a sacrifice ship. You can learn what weapons they field by observing what happens to satellites of yours they encounter.

[ October 11, 2002, 19:36: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Puke October 11th, 2002 12:20 AM

Re: When to attack
 
Sun Tzu and The Prince both have direct applications in SE4. I tend to favor the latter over the former.

Fyron October 11th, 2002 12:47 AM

Re: When to attack
 
The Prince?

Captain Kwok October 11th, 2002 12:58 AM

Re: When to attack
 
Fyron - both are references to older battle tactics and foreign relations stuff.

Zoompet October 11th, 2002 01:15 AM

Re: When to attack
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Puke:
Sun Tzu and The Prince both have direct applications in SE4. I tend to favor the latter over the former.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Which one said "don't attack until you can sweep 100 points of mines."

Arkcon October 11th, 2002 01:16 AM

Re: When to attack
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
The Prince?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Il Principe , The Prince, by Nicolo Machiavelli. From which we get the term machiavellian -- success by any means necessicary.

I've already quoted Sun Tsu once, let me see, something from The Prince ...

OK, well, everyone building masses of weapon platforms would do well to read Chapter XX - Are Fortresses, And Many Other Things To Which Princes Often Resort, Advantageous Or Hurtful?

For a quote how about...
"a man who wishes to act entirely up to his professions of virtue soon meets with what destroys him among so much that is evil. "

"Hence it is necessary for a prince wishing to hold his own to know how to do wrong, and to make use of it or not according to necessity. "

{Thank you Project Gutenberg, I gave my peguin copy away}

[ October 11, 2002, 00:21: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Fyron October 11th, 2002 02:39 AM

Re: When to attack
 
Ok... that is what I was thinking The Prince was.

Taera October 11th, 2002 04:49 AM

Re: When to attack
 
Does someone have a link to full translation of Sun Tzu's book and Prince, too? I have one Sun Tzu's translation but its rather puny...

Fyron October 11th, 2002 04:53 AM

Re: When to attack
 
I used to have a link to Sun Tsu's book. I think I got that link from the old EZ Board Hypercomm Central.


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