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Atrocities July 28th, 2003 11:39 PM

Ticon and Pyrexia Ship Sets are now available
 
http://www.astmod.com/concept/dom.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/dom2.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/dom3.BMP
http://www.astmod.com/concept/domm.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/dom2m.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/dom3m.BMP

I redesigned one of my Dominion Ships so that it would appear more toward the ships shown in DS9

Of the three images above, which one looks the best. I am opting for Image 3.

Don't fret about the color, I can change that later.

[ August 09, 2003, 16:27: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Fyron July 28th, 2003 11:43 PM

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None of the images loaded for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

PvK July 28th, 2003 11:44 PM

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Nor for me.

Edit: Oh, now they work. Must've been too eager. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Um, they all look keen to me. I've not seen the ship you're trying to make it look like, but from my aesthetic viewpoint, they're all good. #3 seems a good choice amongst the three, although #1 is an interesting variant since it has straight struts.

PvK

[ July 28, 2003, 22:48: Message edited by: PvK ]

Fyron July 28th, 2003 11:48 PM

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Number 3.

Pax July 28th, 2003 11:50 PM

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Well, they loaded for me.

Anyway, I'd say #2 from the top row, but #3 from the bottom.

On the top row, #2's greater highlight on the leading edge of it's port nacelle really shows that it's a slightly-curved downsweep.

However, on the bottom, that same line of highlight is a bit TOO much; the more-subdued highlight along the port nacelle in #3 works much better.

I don't see any significant conflicts in appearance between the two I've picked, either, so they should work together as portrait and mini.

Color-wise: a bit more blue woudl be nice, but then I'm prejudiced towards that color. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities July 28th, 2003 11:52 PM

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Thanks guys, of the two colors, mini 1 and the others which color looks the best in your opinions?

I like the color of mini 2 and 3 over mini 1.

The ship is based upon the Dominion Battle Cruiser.

I have finally gotten some good 3d renderingso of it and can look at it from all angles. My prototypes were very good and I have received a nice complment on all of my ships.

oleg July 28th, 2003 11:54 PM

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2 or 3. One looks too pushed down, i think.
Could be used for larger ship size with appropriate scaling.

Atrocities July 28th, 2003 11:55 PM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

http://www.astmod.com/concept/blueDomShip.BMP

Atrocities July 29th, 2003 12:07 AM

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http://www.astmod.com/concept/rom1.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/rom2.BMP
http://www.astmod.com/concept/rom1m.BMP http://www.astmod.com/concept/rom2m.BMP

My Romulan work. I was lucky to find these. I had thought them lost.

Fyron July 29th, 2003 12:10 AM

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The color schemes don't look very Romulan to me. But good ships nonetheless.

You should stop with the Trek sets and make more non-sci-fi canon sets. Trek is very creatively limiting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

oleg July 29th, 2003 12:13 AM

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Mini images are almost identical http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

My major complaint about many shipsets is that authors focus too much on portraits. But it is MINI images that decides how good the shipset will look in SE games !

Pax July 29th, 2003 12:14 AM

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Ooooooooooooo. Blue! NICE!

Andrés July 29th, 2003 01:07 AM

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Bule? I think Dominion ships should keep a violet color but a not so saturated shade.
IMHO many of your latest shipsets have over-saturated colors, but are excellent anyway.

I like the Romulan ones, perhaps the angle of the light can be adjusted so the side of the main hull is not so dark.
Not vert Romulan colors? the shades of green look fine to me, but I'm not so sure about those redish spots.

And don't listen to Fyron, we need good pictures of all Trek races.

Cirvol July 29th, 2003 04:34 AM

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Nice ships Atrocities!

which rendering / drawing program do you use?
i've been toying with the idea to create my own custom shipsets but so far its pretty difficult

initially i was thinking of using autocad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

recently i've been toying with Rhinoceros...

keep up the good work m8

CNCRaymond July 29th, 2003 05:24 AM

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Those are some nice looking ships. I agree with Andres, they do appear over saturated, and ya the light angle on the Rom ships would be better served at a differant angle.

He uses a program, IIRC named DOGA. He is the DOGA king.

Fyron July 29th, 2003 06:20 AM

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Quote:

And don't listen to Fyron, we need good pictures of all Trek races.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There are plenty of sets for Trek races already. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

The reddish spots are definitely not Romulan. I was more talking about the patterns on the ships, which do not look like Romulan ships at all. This is why he should make non-Trek sets; no silly complaints like this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ July 29, 2003, 05:22: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Cirvol July 29th, 2003 03:32 PM

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Has anyone else used autocad or rhinoceros to make shipsets?

or do you all use doga?

whats the pro's and con's of it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities August 1st, 2003 06:28 AM

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I am nearly finished with both the TICON and Pyrexia races. If you would like to see my work so far please visit HERE

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran1p.BMP http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran2p.BMP http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran3p.BMP
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran1m.BMP http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran2m.BMP http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/tran3m.BMP

CNCRaymond August 1st, 2003 10:59 AM

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Damn those are some nice looking ships there PCP. Are you going to be making the set Neo-Standard full or part?

Fyron August 1st, 2003 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Cirvol:
Has anyone else used autocad or rhinoceros to make shipsets?

or do you all use doga?

whats the pro's and con's of it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not everyone uses Doga. I know Kwok and Andres do not, and I do not think any of the B5 sets were made using Doga.

Andrés August 1st, 2003 08:53 PM

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Cool work Atrocities!!

That's right I use 3ds Max.
I had actually used AutoCAD in my first attempts, I work in architecture and that's a program I was familiar with, but I never got to understand the more complicated rendering stuff. The Niridia shipset was made in autocad and exported into 3dsMax for the final touches and rendering.
And Captain Kwok uses Moray+POV-Ray.
Check this topic about 3d tools.

Pax August 1st, 2003 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I am nearly finished with both the TICON and Pyrexia races. If you would like to see my work so far please visit HERE
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, D*MN ... I love the blue ones -- Ticon, eh? Well, as soon as you finish that set, I'll be adding it to my list of "love to use them" shipsets. Gorgeous is what they are.

Hmm, having looked at the work-in-progress page now ... Ihave to say, the Pyrexia TOO will be joining that list.

I have only one thing to say to you now, Atrocities:

MORE!!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Captain Kwok August 2nd, 2003 07:00 PM

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Atrocities:

I think the Ticon Consortium is your best work to date. My only suggestion would be to improve the scale between the different ship sizes.

[ August 02, 2003, 18:01: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

oleg August 2nd, 2003 08:51 PM

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Just a suggestion - almost all shipsets keep the same color gamma throught all ships. Sometimes it makes very different to pick up mini-ship images on the map. I think it would be nice if you indroduce slightly different shades to ship types. Like warships are deep blue, carriers are sky blue, transports are violet blue, etc. Just to make ships more telling from the first glance.

TerranC August 3rd, 2003 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by oleg:
Just a suggestion - almost all shipsets keep the same color gamma throught all ships. Sometimes it makes very different to pick up mini-ship images on the map. I think it would be nice if you indroduce slightly different shades to ship types. Like warships are deep blue, carriers are sky blue, transports are violet blue, etc. Just to make ships more telling from the first glance.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aren't different shapes and sizes enough?

Atrocities August 3rd, 2003 10:54 AM

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Thanks guys.

That is a cool idea Oleg. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The ships will be sized correctly when I release the set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks again guys.

Atrocities August 7th, 2003 04:03 PM

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http://astmod.com/nasy/concept/romwbp2.BMP

Romulan Warbird

http://astmod.com/nasy/concept/romabp1.BMP

Romulan Battle Hawk

http://astmod.com/nasy/concept/romabp2.BMP

Romulan Star Hawk

[ August 07, 2003, 15:28: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Atrocities August 7th, 2003 04:36 PM

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http://astmod.com/nasy/concept/romstarcat.BMP

Romulan Starcat

I changed the name of the thread because I have been asking my self this question for weeks now. Why bother with new ship sets? I mean the game already have over 200 ship sets and who would want more?

The answer is simple, me. I love, rather really enjoyed, making ship sets. I enjoy the time I spend creating the images in my minds eye and sharing them with people who may or may not appreciate them. The fact that an image concept can go from thought to pratical game use in less than eight hours is amazing to me.

I really enjoy it when a design comes together, and often really get depressed when a design fails. Note the Romulan ships.

I started these before I did the set for Fyron, and have been debating whether or not to work on making a complete set. But once again the question comes up, why bother? I honestly don't know why I should, but I will more than likely do it out of bordom.

[ August 07, 2003, 16:02: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

General Woundwort August 7th, 2003 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I changed the name of the thread because I have been asking my self this question for weeks now. Why bother with new ship sets? I mean the game already have over 200 ship sets and who would want more?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Other than me and just about everyone else here, I can't think of anyone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'm glad you enjoy doing them. Just keep them coming.

tesco samoa August 7th, 2003 05:48 PM

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and it gives me something to do as well

add them to my site.

we all have to do what we like.

oleg August 7th, 2003 06:43 PM

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Every time I start a new game (solo), I want to have an element of surprise when encounter other empires. That is not easy when you played SE for I don't know, 1000 times? This is why I have 100+ ship sets and add every new one I like.
More is better !

Raging Deadstar August 8th, 2003 12:10 AM

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The new romulan ships rock Atrocities. The Romulans are my favourite star trek race ship wise and i know for a fact that even after starfury is released i'm going to come back to space empires iv. So any more shipsets created is good news. I like to be suprised as well when playing seiv so when new shipsets come out i always add them.

The only criticism i can offer is perhaps the romulan ships are to light. But i can live with that as the models are great! I always wanted to fly around in a custom made Romulan warbird!

Katchoo August 8th, 2003 12:39 AM

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The new Romulan Ships look gorgeous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Then again, everything you do appeals to everyone here in one way or another.

You're our very own Picasso! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

QuarianRex August 8th, 2003 12:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I really enjoy it when a design comes together, and often really get depressed when a design fails. Note the Romulan ships.

I started these before I did the set for Fyron, and have been debating whether or not to work on making a complete set. But once again the question comes up, why bother? I honestly don't know why I should, but I will more than likely do it out of bordom.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You think that these Romulan models are a failure?!? You must be mad. Those are some sweet images and, I might add, much needed. I have wanted the romulans to get a bit of a facelift for a while now. I eagerly await their release.

QuarianRex August 8th, 2003 01:04 AM

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nah. Picasso wasn't that good. People were just so confused by his work that they just assumed that it was good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I'd say he's more like DaVinci. Function as well as form. After all, DaVinci designed helicopters and submarines way back in ye days of olde. If he was alive now I'm pretty sure that he'd be designing quantum powered dreadnoughts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

mottlee August 8th, 2003 01:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by General Woundwort:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Atrocities:
I changed the name of the thread because I have been asking my self this question for weeks now. Why bother with new ship sets? I mean the game already have over 200 ship sets and who would want more?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Other than me and just about everyone else here, I can't think of anyone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'm glad you enjoy doing them. Just keep them coming.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">HERE! HERE! I like seeing the different type, I for one could not do one to save my life!
Now we can only wish the AI was as easy to do http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities August 8th, 2003 04:57 AM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif You guys actually like these Romulan ship images? Well that is cool. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ragnarok August 8th, 2003 05:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif You guys actually like these Romulan ship images? Well that is cool. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I love the new Romulan ships that you have made. Some of your best work yet if you ask me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Chronon August 8th, 2003 06:01 AM

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I'm also a big fan of the Romulan ships. I do hope you complete this set, Atrocities!

PS. I'm amazed that you can do a set in eight hours. It took me a year to do my first (and only) set. I was just asking myself the same question as you were, but for a different reason. Is it worth starting a new SE4 shipset with Moray/Povray, or will SE5 be out before I'm finished? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Atrocities August 8th, 2003 07:46 AM

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http://astmod.com/nasy/romulan/romwarbirdp.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/romulan/rom1p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/romulan/rom2p.BMP

Raging Deadstar August 8th, 2003 12:24 PM

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Now thats what Romulan ships look like! They rock Atrocities. They look amazing, you must be pushing Doga to it's limits! They're trully great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

TerranC August 8th, 2003 05:11 PM

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IMHO I think the ships would look better with a rough texture rather than normal or metallic.

But that's just my humble, unimportant opinion.

They look great as they are though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

mottlee August 8th, 2003 05:26 PM

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Keep on doing it..how many do you have done?

Atrocities August 8th, 2003 05:33 PM

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If any one is interested in looking at my all new Dominion set go here -> New Dominion

I am going to post for download all of the ships I have finished for the Neo-Standard sets.

Also the Ticon and Pyrexia races will be done later this week as well.

Atrocities August 8th, 2003 11:59 PM

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The Pyrexia can now be dowloaded. They are a Neo-Standard compliant ship set as well.

[ August 08, 2003, 23:01: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Raging Deadstar August 9th, 2003 12:02 PM

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A great shipset Atrocities. I like the uniqueness about the engines and the guns. Though i'm suprised that the description isn't more war like. But i can always edit that for personal use. As usual amazing work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities August 9th, 2003 05:21 PM

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The Pyrexia can now be dowloaded. They are a Neo-Standard compliant ship set as well.
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/P...readnought.BMP

The Ticon Consortium can now be dowloaded. They are a Neo-Standard compliant ship set as well.
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/T...readnought.BMP

[ August 10, 2003, 08:22: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

oleg August 9th, 2003 11:13 PM

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Atrocities, I have a noble task for you :
Please make a gorgeous Vulcan ship set.
I found the current V. shipset lacking. Just IMHO.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities August 10th, 2003 09:17 AM

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I tend to agree with you in that regard Oleg. The Vulcan set does suck. With the Three Vulcan ships that we have seen in the Enterprise series it is possible that a new set could be developed.

We'll see. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif You could always make a fine set as well, your Tholian set is by far one of the best Star Trek sets out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities August 10th, 2003 09:20 AM

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I wonder if I should finish this set?
The Sekani


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