Starblaszers Ship Sets (EDF / Gamilon)
 

I spent some time Last night making these two ships. I am so dissappointed in how they came out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/ship1p.BMP
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/concept/ship2p.BMP

[ April 04, 2004, 08:39: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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It could have been a lot worse!

I'm not the big anime fan like Fyron, but I think these ships look the part, don't know why you don't care for them...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes... just look at my massive anime collection here, consisting of a whole... 0 episodes! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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I am being facetious. I do like them. In fact I think they represent some of my best work with DOGA to date.

[ August 10, 2003, 08:26: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Ah! They look like 8472 ships! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif (j/k)

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Do they? By God your right! They do! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Those ships look really good! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Especially the second one.

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I like them. It is definitely some of your best work to date. I like the second one the best. You're definitely on a shipset roll Atrocities. I guess it backs up the rumour you're actually a super-computer at IBM http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ August 10, 2003, 10:23: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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As for the thread title - a blatant fishing for compliments. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

As for the ships - well, you said it, some of your best work to date. I do hope that you round out the set eventually - the currently existing shipset for the EDF is just "lifted" screenshots, and could stand improvement.

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Great!

I expecially like the different coloring in the hilights of the ships. It can be used by some space navy to determine the class of a ship upon visual contact.

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I touched up the images a bit and made a few more ships.

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship1p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship2p.BMP
http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship3p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship4cp.BMP

Here are a few Versions of Ship 4

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship4bp.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship4ap.BMP

[ August 10, 2003, 13:18: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Confess, Trooper' Pirates shipset was the inspiration for these best ever SEIV ships http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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wow, it's indeed a very nice shipset!
what race are they for?

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http://www.astmod.com/nasy/sb/fleet.BMP

These do look mean as hell http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And here we go again, two more ships

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship11p.BMP http://www.astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship12p.BMP

[ August 10, 2003, 14:42: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Earth Defense Force from StarBlazers/Space Battleship Yamato, of course!

"We're off to outer space, we're leaving Mother Earth, to save the human race...
our Star Blazers!"

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I might change the color of these fighters, but finding the right mix has proven difficult.

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/f1p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/f2p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/f3p.BMP

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I wanted to give the Colonyship a differant look then I have given other ships of its classification.

I hope it is well received.

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/colony.BMP

I tried to do something new with the Transports *** well. Given the fact that this set looks like a real naval ship set, I thought the look for the Transports should look like a modern day cargo ship with cargo being stored on the deck.

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/tran1.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/tran2.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/tran3.BMP

[ August 10, 2003, 16:09: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Logo type cargo containers are just plain silly. Sorry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif What does the colour type mean ? Here are the cloths, here are the cars and here is the enriched U-235. No, all containers on modern cargo ships are uniform and of the same boring color. I think. Give more attention to mini images. So far, transportLarge and transportMedium would look too similiar in mini. images. I think again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Homer nods.

I have to agree with Oleg. I think it would be much better giving them a solid bulky look than those loose cargo pods on a flat bed. This set is shaping up far too well to let a bad transport series ruin it.

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Ok.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, they are different colors, depending on the company that owns that particular container. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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But they are definitely not uniform bright colors like that... the effect works fine for the UCE shipset because that's their theme, but for something realistic looking like this? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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And Three More Ships

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship5p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship9p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship10p.BMP


And Three More (Carriers)

http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship6p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship7p.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/ship8p.BMP

[ August 10, 2003, 13:59: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Hmm, having read others' comments WRT the transport hulls, I've got an idea for you.

I tend to think that planet-to-planet transport of cargo (and even passengers) would be done with large modular cargo containers, INTO which individual companies' or private individuals' cargo containers are loaded.

If we assume a sort of "highport" affair for orbit-to-ground transfer of cargo, then the modules needn't even be capable of moving up and down the gravity well.

However, they might be small ships in their own right, in terms of STL, orbital-maneuver-speed movement. IOW, the actual transports might not DOCK to the local highport, they might simply pull up NEARBY, and let the Cargo Transport Modules ("CTM") themselves do the to-and-fro. If you assume one CTM per X kT of Transport hull-size, you get a built-in design lineage effect.

To make it a "containers on a deck" effect, Atrocities, you could have the raw Transports themselves have a large, flat area (a deck), with a half-hull section below it; the bow can be full-height, and come up to the level of the CTM's top. A bridge tower tothe rear, with the engines, gives you a pretty close concept to what you're trying to do. Configure the varying number of CTMs on that flat area, and you should have what you need.

For example, if you figure a CTM to be a big, hexagonal cylinder shape (with their own small bridge at one end and some tiny engines at the other), with it's length being 2x to 3x it's diameter, you could do (I assume one CTM per ~150kT of Transport hull):

TINY: Just a CTM (perhaps with slightly bigger engines), if such a hull size was needed (I think Neo or Neo++ uses Tiny Transports ... doesn't it?).

SMALL: two CTMs, parallel to ship axis, one beside the other.

MEDIUM: four CTMs, perpendicular to ship axis, in a row from bow to stern.

LARGE: six CTMs, parallel to ship axis; take the side-by-side pair of CTMs on the Small, put a third atop that (to make a trangle). Then place one triangle ahead of the other.

... and so on, if you want really BIG transports.

I think that'd give you a very "container ship" feel, and also something of a "wet navy in space" look, while being more "semirealistic SF".

You could even have the PORTRAITS be of transports during loading/unloading ... nothing says a portrait has to be of the ship while in full flight!! Such a "mid-loading" portrait could help emphasise that the CTMs are semi-autonomous vehicles in their own right.

For the colony ship ... picture a one-CTM (parallel to spine) ship, where the CTM docks into a bay BELOW a domed area, like your image below has on it. Rather like the old transport / "flying crane" helo's, as far as teh CTM. Might tie the COL in to the Transport hull series, as a specialised transport of sorts.

Oh,and BTW ... those are some NICE-looking ships you've got there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I can't wait for the finished product ... !!

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looks like tetris

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Mein Gott!

Lovely, just lovely! I fear your skill, Atrocities. Fear I say. I'm cowering in front of my monitor right now.

Though I must agree with the general consensus on the transports. The cargo boxes are a great idea that seem a little less than great in execution.

Three questions: Is it done yet? How about now? Now?

(more questions to come)

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This is an excellent ship set, Atrocities. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

The carriers are excellent as they are, but I thought of a couple of things for detail (please take these suggestions with a grain of salt). Is is possible to add text to the textures in Doga? If so, you could place a large numeral at the end of the flight deck (or on the hull for the battleships, etc.). Also, when you get the fighters finished, you could shrink one down and make copies, and scatter them around the flight deck for effect.

Just a couple thoughts for your consideration...

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Very nice work Atrocities.

Actually, they remind me a little of some of the Zeon warships from Gundam.

Of course, Im obsessed and just about anything cool looks Zeonic to me.

oh and one more thing.

SEIG ZEON!
::leaves scary gundam obsessor mode::

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">roflmao

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Thank you GW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

For those who have not been to NASY in recent times please take a moment to stop buy. I occationally post interesting things there and for the most part if I am working on something I will post about it there first.

New Age Ship Yards

[ August 11, 2003, 13:02: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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The Last three shipsets are simply great Atrocities.

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This is a great set Atrocities - truly your best work to date. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I like the final Version of the transports and colony ship - they look very good - and the finishing touches on the carriers... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My God! This ship set has been downloaded nearly fourty times and it has only been out about four hours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Donations are welcome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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AT.

If I sent you a racial picture... Do you think you could be inspired to create a ship set for them ... Or even just to think about it

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No promises, but sure.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, care to eat those words about "nobody wanting anymore shipsets"? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[EDIT - it'd be 41 times, but I'm not at my home computer at the moment]

[ August 11, 2003, 16:39: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

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Great set, the new transports are amazing and the war ships are just cool. Definitely your best work to date, they even beat my old favourites the Vaadwaur, well until the new dominion comes along, which should be in what?....a few days. You are the shipset creating king Atrocities! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Yippee!!! Finally, someone has done a Starblazers ship set, which I've been wanting for a long time now. Can't wait to play with it.

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Looks great! I really like the new transports.

PvK

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, there was already one, but it consists of screen captures instead of original models. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Look on spaceempires.net in the downloads section for "edf" to find it.

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That old set is just plain ugly. I do not mean to offend whomever created it, but my god that set is ugly. I did use some of his info to set up the new race though.

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http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/edf/EDF_Po...Battleship.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/edf/EDF_Po...ghtCruiser.BMP http://astmod.com/nasy/sb/edf/EDF_Po...ghterSmall.BMP

Please keep in mind that because of the narrow size and long length it was rather hard to get the Minis to show up as well as I would have liked. They still look good though, and I am very happy with the set.

Earth Defenese Force - Starblazers

I really do hope people enjoy this set.

Direct Download

[ August 11, 2003, 12:57: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s18/smilies-21676.png

And those new transports rock! HOOOAH!

[ August 11, 2003, 12:55: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well its over a 100 downloads now. Not bad. If I sold my sets, combined, I'd have enough money by now to buy 3d Studio Max. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 12, 2003, 19:15: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Sweet set, man. I think those may be the sharpest more desirable set Space Empires ships I have ever seen.

Though, in a terribly unimportant way that does not smudge how well the ships and fighters and everything look, I have some trouble telling the Small from Medium Weapons Platforms. It is possible there is some detail that I simply didn't notice, but I thought I let you know what I thought.

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Finally! I've been looking forward to this...

SWEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ August 12, 2003, 19:24: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

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Also, escort and frigate mini images are too big, IMHO. There should be more transition to bigger ships.

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This set is fantastic PCP. I like it a lot, by far some of your best work. I think the ships all look well sized, given they are all basically cigar shaped.

Are you going to make any other SB sets?

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That is an AWESOME shipset.

1. How do you create these pictures??

2. Did you know that Starblazers has a nice looking tactical game (ala Star Fleet Battles), a Technical Manual with descriptions of most of the ships from the 3 races with pictures (ala Battletech) and miniatures: http://members.aol.com/neghvar2/index.htm

3. constructive critizism: the fighters fit the look of the rest of the shipset, but not so much the Starblazers look. The troops are way off. At the risk of of sounding ungrateful, is there any chance you could change them?

As odd as it might be, I'd be willing to send you a copy of the technical manual that I have so you can see the tanks, ships, etc. I'd concider it a payment for services of making this awesome shipset, and hope that it might spur you to tweak this (my new favorite) shipset.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank you for the offer, but if you can just scan the images or take a digital picture of them, and send that or tell me where, if not at the above listed web site, where I can get a copy I will buy my own. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I would love to make other sets for this series. I have loved the show since I was a kid, and even though it is kinda corny now, I still enjoy it a lot.