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narf poit chez BOOM August 25th, 2003 11:58 PM

(OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
anyone know how to transfer non-standard amiga disks to pc?

Suicide Junkie August 26th, 2003 03:43 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Floppy transfers
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...2+floppy&meta=
- See: http://cloanto.com/kb/3-118.html

Freeware Amiga to PC (software)
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie...freeware&meta=

Looks like you may need an operational Amiga computer to do file transfers.

[ August 26, 2003, 02:48: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

narf poit chez BOOM August 26th, 2003 05:51 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
i've got the cloanta cheap file transfer thing and an amiga, the only problem is it uses the standard workbench file reading thing and that can't read non-standard disks, so i can't transfer any of my psygnosis stuff. i could find it on the internet, maybe, but i'm not to sure i want to wander outside the legal downloads area, even if i already own the game.

dogscoff August 26th, 2003 11:17 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
What model of Amiga is it? If it's one of the later ones (1200, 4000, I think also 600) it has the facility to read/write pc floppies (albeit 720k-formatted ones) built into workbench. Even it's an old a500 you could probably get the software for to do so. The reason PCs can't read/write amiga floppies is that the amiga used more advanced floppy hardware.

Failing that, you can get software for serial/serial or parallel/ parallel transfer. It's slow but reliable, I used to do it all the time. The cables are really cheap (especially if you make them yourself).

You could also get your amiga onto a standard ethernet network if you happen to have the right hardware.

Check out aminet: http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/change.html - you'll find about a zillion freeware ami<->PC solutions.

*dogscoff gronks nostalgically

narf poit chez BOOM August 26th, 2003 11:18 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
i have them linked with a serial cable. can that software transfer non-standard disks?

dogscoff August 26th, 2003 12:03 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Oh I see what you mean. Have a look at that aminet link I pointed to below. There will almost certainly be a utility somewhere to get all the data into amiga-os. I'll have a sniff around as well.

EDIT:
Hmmm.... I don't see anything useful in there, but to be honest I'm not entirely sure how the utility you're looking for would be described. The utility you want is probably right under our noses but not immediately visibe.
What you really need is a forum of dedicated ami-heads to help you out. There must be one somewhere.

*Gronk* *gronk* *gronk*

[ August 26, 2003, 11:12: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

narf poit chez BOOM August 26th, 2003 12:53 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
thanks. i'll pose it on one of those and see if i can get a response. surely someone's figured out how to do this?

Ruatha August 26th, 2003 09:09 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
There was a program I used to use to read alien disk formats, "Anadisk", and there is a new Version out:
http://www.forensics-intl.com/anadisk.html

I haven't used it for many years, don't remember much about it.

It seems Sydex that made anadisk has a kernel for NT/XP to allow reading of alien disk formats:
http://www.sydex.com/special.html

[ August 26, 2003, 20:20: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Parasite August 26th, 2003 11:00 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Read the disk into the RAM disk, then write it out using the PC0 drive to a PC formated disk. It will then work on a PC. Make sure you use a floppy with only one "Hole" if you only have a low density drive. A low density Amiga drive will write to high density disk in the wrong format. Tape up the other (high density) hole for a quick cheap conVersion.

Exe files that work on the Amiga will not work on a PC, but data text files should. Make sure the file names are correct, the PC0 will only write 8.3 file names.

narf poit chez BOOM August 27th, 2003 02:34 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
ok, i should have mentioned i only have a 500.
those links look like they might help.

or i could watch lord of the rings 2 again on vhs. that sequence where Gandalf was fighting the balrog and they where falling...

[ August 27, 2003, 08:26: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Parasite August 27th, 2003 11:27 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Do you have "WinUAE" loaded on a PC? This is an Amiga Simulator and should have "CrossDos" on it. Load or read the disk that way. No need for the 500 then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

http://www.winuae.net

Another possibility see http://cloanto.com/kb/3-118.html

Should we talk to MM to get an SEIV Amiga port. That would be Awesome! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I could have twice as many people playing SEIV http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ August 27, 2003, 22:32: Message edited by: Parasite ]

narf poit chez BOOM August 28th, 2003 10:57 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
yep, i'm using winuae. did a search in the dir and didn't find any crossdos, though.
did a bunch of stuff today, so no time for emulation.

dogscoff August 28th, 2003 11:43 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
I'm pretty sure you won't get any PC (even one emulating an amiga) to read or write an amiga-formatted floppy. The floppy drives are different.

There was a cool bit of software I used to use from aminet, I can;t remember what it's called, but you used to be able to plug a PC and an amiga together using serial/parallel, and then all the PC's drives became available to the amiga as local drives. Maybe a similar trick could be done in reverse, so that the PC can "remote control" the Amiga's drives.

narf poit chez BOOM August 28th, 2003 11:45 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
please read the Posts. they are connected together. i am reading normal disks fine. i am having a problem with non-standard disk formats.

dogscoff August 29th, 2003 10:35 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Narf, I know that. I just thought that if you were to remote-control the Amiga from the PC, you'd be able to use some PC software to extract the data, which would be an advantage seeing as how hard it is to find amiga expertise these days.

gregebowman August 29th, 2003 07:42 PM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
I have an Amiga 2000, and probably at least a hundred disks of .gifs (mostly of naked ladies) and probably at 50 disk of mod files. I just want my pc to read the disk, recognized that there are files on the disk, and transfer them to my computer. My Amiga still works as far as I know, but the keyboard was messed up by my niece and nephew. Is there something that will let me do this?

narf poit chez BOOM August 30th, 2003 08:24 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
oh, sorry. i hate repetitions. i don't know if i was rude there, but if i was, well, that's why i posted sorry.

i tend to get precise and polite before blowing up - the more precise and polite, the closer i am to blowing up. i reeeally hate repetitions. anyway, i should get around to finding an amiga forum, eh? just been busy. today, i helped someone move. i think i'm going to post some tips i've accumulated about moving. no, this one was easy.

dogscoff September 1st, 2003 11:46 AM

Re: (OT) transfering non-standard amiga disks.
 
Greg: Several possibilities-

-Get that software Narf is using, which seems to allow PCs to read ami disks.
-I seem to remember some kind of "virtual keyboard" tool for the amiga, which allowed you to "type" using the mouse. It's probably a standard part of your workbench setup (look on the "extra" disks.)
-I have an a4000 keyboard I'm not using. I'm 90% sure it would work on your machine. I could loan/ sell it to you.
-Send me all your disks full of naked ladies and I'll burn them all to CD for you. I'll also keep a backup CD for you (in case yours ever gets damaged) at no cost ;-)
-Get onto ebay and pick up an old a500 or something. There ought to be dozens of them knocking around for next to nothing. Do the file transfer from there.


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