Should I microwave my SEIV disk?
 

I mean I don't need it any more. I could always make it into a coaster, or a dog toy. Well I don't have any dogs, and I doubt my cat would fetch it for me.

A nice little attack disk would be cool. I could fling it at the neighbor kid the next time he throws trash in my yard. OR I could put it in a custom make holder and shoot it at the speeding car with no mufflers that always seems to rev its motor at 3 am right in front of my house. Pop open the garage door and POOOF out goes the disk, and ding! Score one for the good guys. Naw, I think I will just nuke it.

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How about selling it or giving it to a friend.

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Don't do it! What happens if your computer catches a sleeper virus, and destroys everything on your system after all your backups have become infected via your normal cycling process?

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Dont worry, it is not my GOLD disk, I'd gaurd that with my life as it is only one of three game disk on my to be buried with list. No this is disk is my first SEIV game disk. I found it today. It is badly scratched. I think one of my nephews found it and decided to play frizbee with it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif A clasic ruined.

[ September 06, 2003, 06:29: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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sell it on e-bay.

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It would be bad for the Microwave.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would think the microwave would be honored to nuke this fine disk.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Unless it is scratched all the way to the actual material at the center of the pLastic, it is recoverable. You can get repair kits resonably cheaply.

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Attach a string and make it into a Christmas tree ornament.
Or hang it from the rear view mirror.

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I like the mirror option! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Why, frame it and hang it on your wall of course. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

If you need attack disks you can get scads of AOL cd's. They are giving them away by the millions at grocery stores now. You don't even have to wait for them to come in the mail. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And at Burger King. It said "Free. Take one.", so a friend of mine took one, approximately two hundred times, in parallel.

Not sure what he did with them, he's kind of an artistic type. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would think the microwave would be honored to nuke this fine disk.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trust me. Microwaving a CD makes a neat little light-show, as the tiny lightning arcs across the surface of the disc. It also leaves this interesting jagged spiderweb pattern on the disc itself, as the current tears through the obstructing pLastic coating and burns the layer of foil.

But every time you do it, you take away from the lifetime of the Microwave. If you do it enough, the Microwave won't work as well, or just won't work.

Metal in the Microwave it a bad idea. Larger metal objects in the Microwave will start fires.

All of this information is from personal experience, this is the kind of thing you learn in a house full of young bachelors. Marshmellow and eggs are also not something to put in the microwave, though they just make a big mess (unless the raw egg blow up real good).

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Make it into a CD Disco Ball! Cut up the CD into 1/2 inch squares and glue them to the outside of a ball. Hang the ball from the ceiling and shine lights on it.

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Reminds me of the story my coworker told me. She swore it really happened. Apparently her 6 year old daughter had recently figured out how to use the microwave. She was in the other room and heard the microwave start up. "What are you cooking honey?" she asked. "Kitty got wet." was the reply. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

She said fortunatly she was able to get there and stop it before the cat was killed. But the animal was "never quite right" aftewards.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Forget the cutting into squares. Use the cd's intact. Little glue and some stiff wire for a frame. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Okay, I know I will be in hot water for this but it has to be said, because there are more than just one that thinks and feels this way. They are just too afraid to say anything, and rightfully so because if they do and do not conform to the majority they will be fried alive by that same majority. If you are Canadian you already spent $70 on that cd. Then an additional $60-$65 for the Gold. In total you have spent $130-$135 for a game. Well if you are American you can do the math and get about $100 or so. Is that not just a little high for a strat game? Is every penny REALLY worth it? You know, because basically the first Version has been rendered useless, effectively giving that first $70 to Malfador for nothing. Okay, so you got a bit of gaming enjoyment out of it and all that, but let's face it that physical cd you bought when you were all starry-eyed about the retail Space Empires is a lemon and one cannot help but feel a little cheated. Perhaps you were a betatester and then this is not a real issue because you didn't pay anything at all for it. This is about those of us who were duped into buying the first retail SE4 when we could have waited for the Gold (which by-the-way was promised to be an upgrade not a retail) and have spent half the money on it.

Now to part 2 - the frying of Tigbit begins, and let's all face the fact that it's not fair that a personal view be the result of a forum lynching. The Last time this was brought up in a forum environment the response was just that. Those of us who feel cheated still feel cheated and the reasons are just as valid as your reasons for feeling every penny was worth it. We do not feel the Gold Version was enough of an upgrade to warrant a retail release. Now the argument of Aaron needing to feed mouths comes in and this is understandable, but there is a little thing called honor that is no longer held valuable. When you promise something deliver it as promised. Don't change your mind halfway through because you see the opportunity to double your money.

*braces for the bLast*

And that's just my opinion.

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Tigbit, you have every right to feel the way you do and I hope noone here bLasts you for expressing your opinion. I also know there are others that agree with you, but I also know that you and those that agree with you are a very small minority. It's simply not possible for any game to please everybody. Se4 does a better job of it then the vast majority of games on the market.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think so, and so do many others. If you consider the amount of time you get out of the typical game SE4 is cheap. Even for those of you that unfortunatly get screwed on the shipping and exchange rates. Which by the way has nothing to do with Shrapnel. Other then the fact that they wont simply stick the game in an envelope and stamp it and hope it makes it to you.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure you can. I don't feel cheated, and neither do the large majority of people who express an opinion.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was a beta tester for Gold and I bought and paid for my copy anyway, because I though the game was worth supporting.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now if you get flamed you need to realize it's not because you are expressing an opinion. It's because you are making comments like this that are totally incorrect. You were not duped into anything, and you got everything you were promised. If the game didn't live up to your expectations it wasn't because you were mislead. It was because you had some unrealistic expectations.

Geoschmo

[ September 06, 2003, 20:13: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Noone here is going to bLast you for stating your opinion. People will surely post in contradiction of it, but noone is going to flame you over it...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is not entirely correct. Take Drones for an example. They were promised for the original SE4, but were never added until Gold. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif That, and they still do not work very well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ September 06, 2003, 21:35: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Should I microwave my SEIV disk?
 

Compared to other things that cost $100, I think SE4 Gold is worth it to players who enjoy the game. And pre-gold was worth the what? $40? ... unless perhaps you bought it shortly before Gold came out. I think that's the only unfair part about it - the fact that some people may have paid more than others for the same thing. Malfador wouldn't have made all the great enhancements without charging for them, and I think Gold is about twice as good as the original. I think I've had more than twice as much fun and satisfying gameplay with the Gold edition than with the previous one. I'd much rather have a much better Version of the best space conquest game, than the pre-gold Version, and some other attempt at a new game.

If someone who enjoys the game thinks SE4 Gold isn't worth $100, then what must they think of most of the $50 offerings on retail shelves? (Ok, maybe a funny question, as I think they're almost all rip-offs, not because of the price, but because they're usually pretty boxes with worthless gameplay).

PvK

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, you are the one that is incorrect here. Drones were listed as something that was a planned feature. Nobody in any position of authority ever said, "Buy Se4 and we promise we will add drones and you won't have to pay extra for them." Every game has some features that get changed or dropped alltogether between planning and implementation for one reason or another.

If anyone has some particular feature that they think a game would be incomplete without they should wait until that feature is added before they buy the game, or find a different game. That's just common sense really.

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Planned features, promised features, same difference. I never implied that MM ever went out and explicitly stated any of that.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Think of Gold as an expansion pack. I did, and I am damned glad I bought both Version of the game. Hell I buy expansion packs all the time. AOE, AOE II, Sim City 3 Unlimited, etc.

I was happy to have SEIV for a year before Gold was released, and more than happy to buy Gold. I love the game, and if I were a beta tester I still would have bought Gold just to support the developer.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Opinions are always good, and even though I do not agree with yours, I respect it.

[ September 07, 2003, 00:48: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Should I microwave my SEIV disk?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Unless it is scratched all the way to the actual material at the center of the pLastic, it is recoverable. You can get repair kits resonably cheaply.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It is hosed beyond repair, but thanks for suggesting this option. To be honest, I was heart sick over finding the CD in the condition it was in. It was like finding out that a beloved pet had passed away. But hey, its pLastic and pLastic things look cool when nuked. *Disclaimer - I am kidding, do not nuke disks, bad bad bad.*

[ September 07, 2003, 00:49: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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ohh pretty

BURN BABY BURN

heheeeehhheee cool

EDIT: this is cool too

[ September 07, 2003, 01:57: Message edited by: Hugh Manatee ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So obviously if you had just discovered it after however long it was no big deal, because you had the Gold. You didn't even miss it, did you. So what if it's baked now? You already paid for it again so it doesn't matter.

Hey how's this. Sell the old ver of SE4 on Ebey and use that money to buy the gold?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, that gives me a great idea for a way to run AOL out of business and purge the world of one more evil! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Whenever you see the "free AOL CD" boxes, take the whole box... they'll just go and make some more... now CD's are cheap, but eventually they'll go bankrupt trying to make enough trial CD's to meet the demand! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, that gives me a great idea for a way to run AOL out of business and purge the world of one more evil! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Whenever you see the "free AOL CD" boxes, take the whole box... they'll just go and make some more... now CD's are cheap, but eventually they'll go bankrupt trying to make enough trial CD's to meet the demand! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This will keep them in business. Right offs.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So obviously if you had just discovered it after however long it was no big deal, because you had the Gold. You didn't even miss it, did you. So what if it's baked now? You already paid for it again so it doesn't matter.

Hey how's this. Sell the old ver of SE4 on Ebey and use that money to buy the gold?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He already said that it is damaged beyond hope, so selling it on Ebay wouldn't be a good idea.

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Write offs only mean you don't pay the taxes...
The people making the CDs would still get paid in full by AOL.

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Fyron :

I meant anyone else who has bought the first release and has held out. How do you think I got the Gold? Hell, I wasn't about to buy the game twice.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">AOL is Evil, except for Netscape Browser. I love my netscape browser.

AOL can go to hell.

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1. Attach disk to dremel.
2. Put on safty glasses.
3. Turn Dremel on High.
4. While at high speed let the disk come in contact with somthing solid.
5. Watch as a hundred peices of cd go flying all over your garage.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No no no no... if you *really* want to put AOL out of business, try this:

1> If you don't already have them, get a CD burner, a scanner and a label making kit.

2> scan a real AOL cd, then use the image to make duplicate labels. You can now produce a stack of *fairly* convincing AOL cds. Most computer-savvy people would know the difference straight away, but then most aol Users (in my experience) aren't computer-savvy people.

3> get lots of nasty porn off the web and burn it onto your homemade AOL cds. If you were feeling particularly evil you could also write some creative batch files to be run when the CD is inserted.

4> slip your fake cds into the pile at your local aol distribution point. (You might want to make sure there are no CCTV cameras watching you).

5> buy the local newspaper in your area and wait for the articles from outraged Users. Heheh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

*DISCLAIMER* This is probably illegal. Actually, this is almost definitely illegal and could cause all kinds of upset to innocent people (Although you have to admit there undoubtedly would be be a percentage of victims that would be delighted to stumble across a CD of free porn.). That's not the point, don't do it (No, really do it.) Doing this would be very bad. (but you want to, don't you? Go on, do it.) No don't. (Do it) No really, don't do it. (aw, nuts) Or at least if you do do it, don't blame me. (Yeah, that's more like it.)

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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if u own a gun or know someone who has a gun i got one word for ya....

"PULL!!!" (bang)

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What's wrong with AOL? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It insists on installing its own software regardless of your preferences. Thank you very much, MS is already bad enough.

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That, and it offers really poor quality internet service at ridiculous rates...

[ September 10, 2003, 04:07: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Should I microwave my SEIV disk?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It insists on installing its own software regardless of your preferences. Thank you very much, MS is already bad enough.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Poor dial up speeds, Often busy signals, spy ware programs, advertising pop ups, you must run their software which is utter crap, cost, can't play games, and often get disconnected while dowloading or surfing with no warning. Oh ya did I mention all the spy ware they install? And AOL causes Windows XP and W2k to lock up or "Freeze" often enough for MS to issue a DO NOT USE advisory.

Go with a local provider if you can find one. Most of them don't have spy ware and don't buck you off line after 20 minutes of idle time.