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If any of these apply to you, seek professional help.
You Might Be An Idiot If 1. You have ever searched for the “Any” key. 2. You have washed rinsed and repeated until the shampoo bottle was empty 3. You have ever used an electrical device in the bath tube 4. You have ever repeated what you have seen on Jackass because it looked fun 5. You recognize your house as your front door is kicked in on a live broadcast of Cops 6. While being questioned by a Cop, you have ever deny possessing illegal drugs then light up a joint and start smoking. 7. You rob a bank and have used your own withdrawal slip to write the hold up note on and then left it behind. 8. If you think OJ is innocent 9. If you think slavery ended in 1969 10. If your are a contestant on Joe Millionaire II |
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Joe millionare is obviosly fake - the first one maybe not, but the potential for lawsuit combined with the unlikelyhood of finding a bunch of women a) beutiful b) naive and c) who have never heard of the first show.
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Joe Millionaire sounds interesting. I have never heard about it. I am a male. You think that's an issue?
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Well, I can imagine. Some years ago I spend one summer in USA and I was actually amazed of the amount of pure s**t that comes out of your TV (no offence meant).
Here in Finland we have 4 channels that everybody can see and if you want more, you can have cable, satellite or digibox. There's plenty of scheisse in our TV also and I'm afraid it won't get less in times to come. |
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How about the "Joe Schmo Show" It is fake, even the contestants are fake...except one guy. And he doesn't even suspect a thing. Except it is on the "Scheiss" Network....ooops I mean "Spike"
Actually I might be an idiot when on an Air New Zealand flight I wake up and the stewardess hands me something warm and rolled up and I try to eat it. It was a freaking moist towel! Then at Sydney airport I look left and step off the curb and into the path of a tour bus. Yes, Volvo even make quick handling tour buses. |
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But this is only my opinion. I am also happy you don't know what kind of magazines we have full of gossip of some 15 minutes celebrities... and how many people actually buy them... I don't know whether to cry or laugh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [ October 15, 2003, 17:39: Message edited by: Karibu ] |
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About the only thing I like about the European culture is they are not afraid to publish pictures of nudity. I used to look through Der Speigel when I took German, and found it very eye opening. Too bad we're still so self-righteous (and hypocritical) in the states when it comes to sex and nudity.
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i get tired of being called a hypocrit. i try not to generalize. and if i do generalize, i'm polite enough not to say it.
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The best thing about Joe Millionaire was/is the Butler. They should rename the show "I buttle for Joe" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Only in America will we send a person to prison for life because they have a photograph. If you kill someone, you get 20 years, but a photograph of European Porn...... OMG..... 125 years!!! It is a sad environment that we live under. We are told we are free, but yet we have laws that controdict that. If we are a free society, then why can't an eight year old kid take a comic book like Captain America to school? A kid was sent home and expelled from school because he took his dads old Captain America comic books to school to show his friends. The school freaked out because it had a german WWII Nazi symbol in it. In my own state a kid was arrested and kicked out of school for taking a G I Joe figure to school along with the figures tiny replica M-16 and Colt 45. OMG call the police, evacuate the school, and call in the national gaurd! If we are a free society, then why is driving consider a "privilage?" I can go on for hours and type all night. But why? As population increases, freedoms decrease and the idiots previal. Nuff said. [ October 16, 2003, 06:47: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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civilizations also undergo entropy until something revitalises them. people forget the reasons and the energy that created the civilization in the first place and allowed it to grow. either that or the civilization gets more and more rigid. ours, canada and the us, are getting more and more 'fluid'. losing integrity in more ways than one.
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Only in America will we send a person to prison for life because they have a photograph. If you kill someone, you get 20 years, but a photograph of European Porn...... OMG..... 125 years!!! It is a sad environment that we live under. We are told we are free, but yet we have laws that controdict that. If we are a free society, then why can't an eight year old kid take a comic book like Captain America to school? A kid was sent home and expelled from school because he took his dads old Captain America comic books to school to show his friends. The school freaked out because it had a german WWII Nazi symbol in it. In my own state a kid was arrested and kicked out of school for taking a G I Joe figure to school along with the figures tiny replica M-16 and Colt 45. OMG call the police, evacuate the school, and call in the national gaurd! If we are a free society, then why is driving consider a "privilage?" I can go on for hours and type all night. But why? As population increases, freedoms decrease and the idiots previal. Nuff said.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wow, 5 stars for you, even though you misspelled privilege http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif {rant} I hate it when my rights are trampled, and too many people go with the government by default. Yes, child porn is a disgusting "industry" that causes a lot of suffering. But the gov't has no right to search and impound people's computers, and toss them in jail, based on which magnetic domains point in which directions on their harddrive, and how the gov't decides to decode those bits. You know, a jpeg is also a valid text file. And any collection of bits could be interpereted as anything, depending on what you use to read them, or how you decide to decrypt them. I think jails should be for people that are committing crimes that have victims... the US gov't seems to want to see how many people it can cram in them, on whatever pretext (drugs use, anyone? Why aren't Bush and Clinton in jail, if it's so terrible?) {/rant} -Cherry |
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Kiddie-porn is not a victimless crime. Allowing the filth to circulate only encourages it's production, and the illusion of acceptability inside the sub-culture of pedophiles. I don't want to bite anyone's head off over this, but I will.
That said, I will agree with Atrocities that prosecution based on the content of unsolicited e-mail is unreasonable. But I do not think things are getting worse. The 'golden age', glorious past, paradise-from-which-we-have-fallen is a myth, and a common one that was held at every point in history. There are still problems, but they will be worked out. Some of our newer problems are, in fact, the results of old solutions to older problems, but that is the nature of things. Today's solutions are often tomorrow's problems. This can be seen quite clearly while working on a large programming project my yourself or with a small number of people. It translates directly into many, many other situations. Of course, I could be wrong. But not about the kiddie-porn. [ October 16, 2003, 14:52: Message edited by: Loser ] |
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Those who view such material should be fined and publicly chastized for thier stupidity. They then should be forced to pay for counselling and on going evaluations to determine wether or not they will become a threat to children. Some people are very sick, and I don't know who is more so, the people who provide the material, or those who want it. Either way it has been going on for centuries and only now are we as a society, world wide I would hope, standing up and saying enough is enough, leave the kids alone. [ October 16, 2003, 15:55: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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Did anyone ever stop to consider the point of view of the pedophiles? I know it sounds crazy, but bear with me for a minute. Believe it or not, I am sexually attracted to overweight women. Now imagine that the government came along and said that looking at pictures of naked overweight women was a crime. I happen to be lucky enough to also be attracted to normally-proportioned women, but what if I weren't? I'd have no outlet for my sexual energy and whose fault would it be? No one's, I was born that way! I'm not saying that kiddie porn should be legalized, but at the very least, we should do something with the pedophiles other than just letting them rot in prison - either get them into government-funded psychotherapy, or mercifully euthanize them!
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You know, when you check out the people who get involved in 'kiddie porn' you usually find that they were abused themselves. Maybe a lot of people need help rather than more abuse? The revenge model of 'justice' has never solved any problems. Back when everything from picking pockets to stealing a loaf of bread was punishable by hanging it didn't affect the crime rate. People committed those crimes out of necessity. Changing the conditions of society is what reduced the crime rate. Similarly, I think it would be far more productive to get people treatment for their sick sexual behaviors than to torture and mutilate them. Not only for the actual 'perps' but for society as a whole.
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To be fair, it would be more exact to say that our current approach for treatment has no long term effect on a pedophile. This isn't like an alcoholic, where they will always be an alcoholic but can stop drinking. These people statistically will continue to act on their pedophiliac urges. Perhaps we will come up with better forms of treatment in the future. Euthanasia does not fit into how we would like to view ourselves. But don't feel down, these guys don't tend to Last long in prison. When it's time to hurt someone on general purposes, 'Chester' is the first punk-**s b***h on almost everyone's list. He's a great target to use to prove to everyone else how mean you are, and isn't as dangerous as the snitch. Or so I've been told. |
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Did I ever say kiddie porn was victimless? It's not. The illegal drug industry is also not victimless. In either case, there are lots of evil people that have revoked their right to be considered human.
But also, in each case, there are end-user addicts who are not hurting anyone, don't necessarily want to hurt anyone, and pose no danger to society. Crack is filthy, and child porn is filthy... in my opinion. But I don't see how society is helped by tossing people in jail for being addicted to one or the other. If everyone with an abnormal tendancy was tossed in jail, there wouldn't be anyone left to work. Of course, crack can be dangerous to other people, so people in important places (military, police, medical, pilot/driver, and so forth) should be thrown in jail for using it - because they ARE a threat to society. But jail is a place for reform, and if someone likes kiddie porn, tossing him into jail isn't going to change that. Unless there is some reason to believe that they actually PRODUCE said porn, or have a realistic chance of attempting to abuse an actual child, there's no justification for jailing them. You just get into a Big Brother situation, saying, "Ok, Bob has a collection of naked cupids that look like naked children, but have wings. He's OK. Joe cut the wings off his collection of naked cupids, so they are no longer cute and Christian, so he's a disgusting pedophile and goes to jail for 125 years. Dan read a book that contains explicit child abuse, but it's a national bestseller, so that's OK. Pete is writing a book that contains explicit child abuse, and we find that it is not of national-bestseller quality, so into the slammer with him." And so forth. See what I'm getting at? Just because there are crimes and victims, doesn't mean that everyone associated with a concept should go to jail. -Cherry Edit: Ok, I changed my mind a little. I guess anyone who collects and enjoys looking at child porn is a danger to society. I certainly would not want to live near somebody like that. But I like the idea of a thought police even less. People's thoughts, interests, and activites should be private until they start hurting others. It would be nice to live in a society where future sex criminals could be identified at birth and destroyed, but that's not possible. So we have to choose one of 3 things. 1) Jail people who commit real crimes. 2) Have the thought police jail people who do suspicious things like collect child porn, which indicate that they might commit a real crime in the future, just because they MIGHT commit a real crime. 3) Label activites like collecting child porn as crimes, just because you find them disgusting, even though the act of collecting and viewing child porn does not actually hurt anyone. I vote for option 1, because I like a free society, even though we'd all be safer from child molesters with options 2 or 3. Heck, we could execute XYY males at birth because they're 10X as likely as XY males to commit felonies, but I don't see any of you cheering for that. [ October 16, 2003, 17:37: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ] |
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Todays victims are tommorrows perpetrators. Violence begets violence. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Plus lots of other true cliche's Just because someone does something awful, this does not excuse us for sinking to a similar level, or justify inhumane acts on our part as an act of revenge. The point is to act in such a way as makes things better. Violence, retribution, revenge, lack of understanding - none of these achieve this aim. They only make things worse. We throw criminals into a brutal jail system where they become more violent and more criminal. Then we let them out, and give them very limited opportunities outside of crime. In what world does that make sense? It does not come naturally to treat someone who has done something awful with compassion, but often this is the only way to make things better. Contrary to popular belief, then, compassion takes far more courage than revenge. To quote the Song 'Where is the love?' [edit:grammar] [ October 16, 2003, 17:43: Message edited by: Ran-Taro ] |
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I have to agree with Cherry, the problem is where to draw the line, how to decide what is tolerable (I won't say acceptable) and what is not. And what degree of punishment to apply in each case.
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Here's another one. The gem trade in Africa is the source of funding for many of Africa's bloody, seemingly permanent wars. The gems are bought by big companies and sold in jewelry in civilized countries where we don't have gem wars.
So, should people that buy emerald rings or diamond bracelets be jailed, because they are funding wars that kill hundreds of thousands of people every year? Or is that activity OK, because we all buy - or know someone who has bought - jewelry? |
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For one thing, as I said, allowing this to circulate only encourages it's production. The new circulation possibilities that opened up with the internet caused a huge surge in the world of kiddie-porn. To stop it's circulation, you have to do everything you can not only to attack production, but also to attack the consumer base. Secondly, the more this stuff goes unpunished, the more these addicts are allow to congregate (in reality or virtually), the more then feel that their urges and acts are acceptable. This occurs with any behavior. No matter how wrong something is, if you are around people who do it long enough, it won't seem as wrong. 'Long enough' is not that long if it's something you do to. Finally, these people are not addicted to looking at pictures or movies of terrible acts, they are addicted to the 'kick', the rush they get off these things. They never get the same kick off something that they did when they saw it for the first time, so they are constantly searching for new materiel. Eventually, this leads a lot of them into new behaviors in the 'real world' to get their kicks. You show someone who molests other people's children but who does not have child pornography, and I'll show you a blind or luddite child molester. Now, about the drugs. The same "acceptance and demand" agreement fits, only more so. Unlike pornography, which can be reproduced endlessly, these things are consumables, so the more demand, the more will be produced, the more extra will be produced, the more will end up in new places hurting new people, and the more money and power the drug lords will get. Secondly, you don't go to jail for being addicted to crack. You go to jail for doing stupid things, whether you are addicted or not. I'm guessing you've never been busted for possession, so you might not know that people only get busted when they're doing something else wrong. Random drug checks don't occur as you're walking down the street. If someone wants to keep their drug use secret, it's real easy. Typically, someone gets hit with some moving violation, domestic disturbance, or some such and the cop figures that they're on something. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's not. But unless they're driving a car or on probation for something else stupid they did the cop can't demand a blood test. If they're in public, they get off with public intoxication, which is dumb enough on it's own. If it's in their house, nothing happens. Now, the same thing can happen for possession. The cop has to have a reason to hassle them in the first place. If you don't want anyone to know you have drugs, don't act like a drug user. Don't dress like one. Don't talk like one. It's easy for the serious user. Don't do stupid things like getting in fights, shoplifting, or selling in public while your have your drugs on you. The catch is, meth-, coke- and even pot-heads do the stupid stuff all the time. There is a connection between drug use and disorderly, uncivilized, law-breaking behavior. Of course, that same connection extends to alcohol, but again, you don't get busted for being drunk. You get busted for being drunk and doing something stupid. |
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"In January 2002, the FBI began investigating how paid confidential informants set up dozens of innocent people on charges involving drugs that later turned out to be gypsum or some other legal substance. The fake drugs were allegedly planted on the victims in investigations run by Senior Cpl. Mark Delapaz and Officer Eddie Herrera. Delapaz was fired in April after being charged with five counts of deprivation of rights under color of law and one count of making false statements to federal officials. Herrera remains on paid leave. Drug charges against more than 80 people were later dismissed by the Dallas County District Attorney's Office." Yes, lots of people went to jail for possession of gypsum (Calcium sulfate, a building material). I don't think they were high at the time. But yes, you're right that I've never been busted walking down the street. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Unfortunately... black people have it a bit harder. I know blacks who have been pulled over and had their cars searched for drugs (and came up clean, because they're nice, normal, everyday people) just because they're black. You're right that (in America) white people don't usually get imprisioned just for possession or use, but minorities do. -Cherry P.S. Better attribute my sources... http://www.nbc5i.com/news/2434012/detail.html [ October 16, 2003, 18:04: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ] |
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I don't think it's fair, Cherry, to blame the law for abuses of the law. This certainly applies to the fake-drugs issue and to any other 'plants'. It could be said to apply to the issue of racial profiling, but I don't think that's a worthwhile fight.
To more directly address the abuse issue in profiling I'll briefly describe how the law says such a bust has to work. The officer has to back up his search by saying he has 'probably cause'. That is, as everyone here probably knows, that he or she has good reason to believe there are drugs in there. The cop cannot put "He was black." down on his paperwork to back up his search. He can, however, put "I smelled a sag-like odor." or some such nonsense. With the growing freedoms of information, eventually someone will put it all together and report on how often the cops use BS reasons for their probably cause on minorities compared to how often they use them against anglos or whites in general. Then things will change. Until then, legalizing possession is hardly the answer. |
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well, i really really hate to say this, but find me a mother that didn't take at least a couple of picture's of there kids in the bathtub.
well, we could always say 'any nude pictures of other peoples kids or imaginary kids, wings or not.' it's a start. |
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Perhaps then we could spend our law enforcement dollars on something else like, oh, I don't know... how about on addressing the root causes of violent crime? (Poverty and ignorance). Nah, stupid idea. |
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unfortunatly, some people are just mean.
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Just because there are a few perverts out there, does that mean we should bring up a whole generation of kids who start to get screwed up about sexuality before they are even sexual? |
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I know which one I'd choose in a pinch. |
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and for your second question, of course i know who i perfer...some who stabs you is more honest! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Can I have some cheese?
I'll swap you for the reason why a mouse is, when it spins. |
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*hands Ran some cheese*
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So to sum up this thread, You might be an idiot if you let civilization get this screwed up?
Idiot really is a harsh word though. Sometimes society's rules just creep up and then taken as a whole, youll find you suddenly have an oppresive government with stupid rules imprisoning petty criminals longer than murderers. See what Atro started! (the thread I mean) I'll take a Rolling Rock with my cheese thanks! |
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Well, now you know then.
Thanks - I feel all welcome and stuff now. *sniff* |
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so, what is a mouse that spins?
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Beggars (me) won't be choozers (normally me)
I'll take whatever moisture is on it. (rock) I really do eat alot of cheese. I got a cholesterol level that could dam a river! On halloween that creaking sound is my arteries hardening! |
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i hope you get some exercise!
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mmmmm.......cheese........must................have .........cheese............please???????
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*gives Renegade some cheese*
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**The all-knowing, ever-generous narf comes through again!!** **Obtained through deception, narf has given me cheese TWICE!! Muhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!** [ October 17, 2003, 02:21: Message edited by: Renegade 13 ] |
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so? all you have to do is ask.
i don't know everything. in fact, in fractions nobody knows anything. [ October 17, 2003, 02:58: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ] |
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the people. and i, as one of the people, do not want to see our roads becoming a demolition derby.
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Hopefully the people own the government, not just a few powerful individuals.
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http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,4364,1338730,00.asp
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