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Fyron October 16th, 2003 06:22 AM

RIAA
 
An interesting read:

http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2003/mistakes.html

narf poit chez BOOM October 16th, 2003 06:38 AM

Re: RIAA
 
in canada, they could make millions suing the RIAA. sometimes, our crazy system is usefull.

'illegal search and seizure' is the term for what there doing, isn't it? gotta have a warrent. can do bad things in court to the people doing the search and seizure if they don't.

Fyron October 16th, 2003 04:55 PM

Re: RIAA
 
Only law inforcement agencies are legally allowed to do search and seizures... and even then they still need warrants.

Atrocities October 16th, 2003 04:59 PM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Only law inforcement agencies are legally allowed to do search and seizures... and even then they still need warrants.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To get said warrent all they need is probable cause. In most cases such a warrent is only issued when someone's palm is greesed or not. If control is the objective of this, then the RIAA is winning.

I wonder why one of the news magazine shows doesn't blow the cover off of this type of militarisitic jack booted thugism?

Baron Munchausen October 16th, 2003 05:45 PM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Only law inforcement agencies are legally allowed to do search and seizures... and even then they still need warrants.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To get said warrent all they need is probable cause. In most cases such a warrent is only issued when someone's palm is greesed or not. If control is the objective of this, then the RIAA is winning.

I wonder why one of the news magazine shows doesn't blow the cover off of this type of militarisitic jack booted thugism?
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Because they are defending property (albeit 'intellectual' property) -- the center-piece of the capitalist religion. If these raids were about something else, like trying to catch people having un-approved sex, then it would be an outrage and a violation of civil rights. But property is the first of all 'rights' in this society and no one dares to question any measures directed towards protecting or even extending it to new areas.

Atrocities October 16th, 2003 06:10 PM

Re: RIAA
 
You put it well, capitalist Religion. You couldn't be more right.

Each day more and more people join this religion. You see them everwhere now, they are the stuck up, self centered, egomanliamacs, who drive expensive SUV, and are always taking on their cell phones.

Ran-Taro October 16th, 2003 06:55 PM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
If control is the objective of this, then the RIAA is winning.

QB]
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">They will lose eventually. Power can only stem the tide of change for so long. And the new technology makes their business model into an aging Dinosaur.

It's apity they won't live, but then again, who does?

narf poit chez BOOM October 16th, 2003 08:10 PM

Re: RIAA
 
hmmm...cappers?

PvK October 16th, 2003 08:49 PM

Re: RIAA
 
The related stories are good too.

CDs and the Scarcity Principle

Let's Play Starving Artist, the New Game From the RIAA. Except it Ain't New

PvK

Mathias_Ice October 16th, 2003 11:34 PM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
You put it well, capitalist Religion. You couldn't be more right.

Each day more and more people join this religion. You see them everwhere now, they are the stuck up, self centered, egomanliamacs, who drive expensive SUV, and are always taking on their cell phones.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're joking right? That's the only explanation I can concieve for what has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read on this forum. It's this "religion" that allows you to enjoy the standard of living you enjoy in this country. Unless you're a government employee (oh, wait, they are ulimately paid by this "religion," too) you are either directly or indirectly paid by this "religion." When someone poor hires me to do a job maybe I will change my mind. I work in one of the richest towns in one of the richest counties of the country. Most if not all of my clients own expensive SUV's and/or European made sports cars or sedans. I'm sure they all own atleast one cell phone. Guess what? They are all just regular people despite their 6+ figure income. All very nice, generous, personable people.

Sounds to me like a case of jealousy. Maybe you should quit your *****in', spend less time playing around with a silly game, and exploit the talent I know you have.

Just a thought.

narf poit chez BOOM October 16th, 2003 11:36 PM

Re: RIAA
 
well, there are people who worship there money.

Mathias_Ice October 16th, 2003 11:50 PM

Re: RIAA
 
... and some who worship their self-pity.

Atrocities October 17th, 2003 12:01 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mathias_Ice:
Originally posted by Atrocities:
You put it well, capitalist Religion. You couldn't be more right.

Each day more and more people join this religion. You see them everwhere now, they are the stuck up, self centered, egomanliamacs, who drive expensive SUV, and are always taking on their cell phones.

You're joking right? That's the only explanation I can concieve for what has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read on this forum.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you had been here longer you would know that I am a sinical bastard. When I am serious about a subject, trust me you will know it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Quote:

Originally posted by Mathias_Ice:

Sounds to me like a case of jealousy. Maybe you should quit your *****in', spend less time playing around with a silly game, and exploit the talent I know you have.

Just a thought.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're joking right? That's the only explanation I can concieve for what has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read on this forum. SEIV is not a silly game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

For the record, I could careless about what a person owns, or does for a living. I do think that driving and talking on a cell phone is bad mojo and should be done sparingly, and I for one like SUV's. No jealousy is a word that a yuppy would us to defend against facicious comments such as the one I made.

Yuppies are people to, and they have feelings, as proven by the fact that they all have a shrinks number on their cell phones speed dial. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ October 16, 2003, 23:12: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Atrocities October 17th, 2003 12:24 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Back on topic,

I have just read that the RIAA has released its own P2P programs and that these programs install "media revenue" spy ware on your PC. This way the RIAA can track what music you have on your PC and were it got it from and where it was sent. That this software embeds itself in the music file and travels with the file. This way the RIAA can say that a specific file orginated on X machine owned by so and so with the serial number and any system info it can obtain.

I did a sweep of my system with www.pestpatrol.com software and sure enough I had a media revenue spy ware on my pc. That spy ware has since been deleted.

If the RIAA has released its own P2P software than any one who uses this new software will be setting themselfs up for one big fall. To be safe, I would not use any of the newer P2P programs that have been released since the beginning of the year.

narf poit chez BOOM October 17th, 2003 12:26 AM

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if the government did that, there would be 'invasion of privacy' screams.

Fyron October 17th, 2003 12:48 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Trust me, there are plenty of invasion of privacy screams. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM October 17th, 2003 12:50 AM

Re: RIAA
 
even from the news media.

Mathias_Ice October 17th, 2003 04:14 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Whew, thank God, Atrocities, that we are back on topic, that you are a cynical bastard, and that you don't hate me because I drive an SUV (is an 87 Ford Bronco II considered an SUV?) and talk on my cell phone (I do try to avoid it while driving.)

I have been reading quite a bit about the RIAA and their current tactics. Being an amateur guitarist and writer I can respect not wanting to see my works traded about the internet without my consent. Unfortunatley, the RIAA has neither the artists' or the consumers' best interest in mind. I recently had to reformat my HD and have yet to reinstall a P2P program. I'm thinking I will go a while and make a list of songs I haven't gotten yet, load a program, dl the songs, delete the program, burn the songs, and take the songs off my HD. I prolly won't be buying anymore music from anyone belonging to RIAA. Maybe we, on this forum, could set up a list of MP3s each of us has and do a little swapping of our own... oh wait, I hear someone knocking at my door and my firewall is detecting someone trying to hack my computer... Big Brother is Watching You...

Atrocities October 17th, 2003 05:10 AM

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Hey NP Mathias_Ice. Sorry about my spelling. Howked oon Foniks wroked 4 mye. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM October 17th, 2003 05:22 AM

Re: RIAA
 
eye half a spell chequer...

Baen books has a free library! http://www.baen.com/library/
interesting intro by Eric Flint, to.

[ October 17, 2003, 06:56: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Erax October 21st, 2003 10:58 AM

Re: RIAA
 
A computer game designer's views on IP (in very strong language, and yes, this is a warning) :

Greg Costikyan's Weblog

Read the post for Oct.18 (second from the top at the time I posted this).

Azselendor October 22nd, 2003 12:36 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Only law inforcement agencies are legally allowed to do search and seizures... and even then they still need warrants.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, under the patriot act, this can be bypassed by the police dept or any other law-enforcement group by simply citing it's for the National Interest.

PvK October 22nd, 2003 02:08 AM

Re: RIAA
 
Yes, very well put. "Ultimately, there's a confluence of interest between fans and creators--in getting the ******* suits out of the picture. ... In a digital world, what the [f*&$] do they contribute?"

As for the Patriot Act, it's an utter perVersion. The bastards responsible are a far worse enemy of freedom than any terrorist.

PvK

Quote:

Originally posted by Erax:
A computer game designer's views on IP (in very strong language, and yes, this is a warning) :

Greg Costikyan's Weblog

Read the post for Oct.18 (second from the top at the time I posted this).

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

tesco samoa October 22nd, 2003 03:52 AM

Re: RIAA
 
if you want free music pick up an insturment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

tesco samoa October 22nd, 2003 02:13 PM

Re: RIAA
 
http://www.gokartrecords.com/freedownload/

Here ya go. A nice link for some bands. And a great Label. Hope you like some of the music.

Erax October 22nd, 2003 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Actually, under the patriot act, this can be bypassed by the police dept or any other law-enforcement group by simply citing it's for the National Interest.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Having lived under a de facto dictatorship for 17 years, I have to say that sounds all too familiar, although the catchphrase down here was 'national security'.


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