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I'm going with a group to see it at midnight (less than six hours away here). Anyone else?

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I will wait. I bought both extended Versions of the first 2 movies on DVD. Our plans are to set a day aside and watch the first 2 movies again (roughly 8 hours) and then see the matinee the next day. I want EVERYTHING fresh for the conclusion.

Our bedroom has a bigscreen TV (54 or 56 inches...can't remember) with Yamaha digital receiver, and a Bose surround sound speaker system...I even crawled in the attic and mounted the rear speakers on the wall behind our bed (near the ceiling). The front speakers are on Bose stands in the corners facing the bed. It's not quite theatre quality but I can make my wife's crystal figurines move...hehe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . After all, fantasy, sci-fi (etc.) movies are just about as important as SE 4 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gonna wait see it on saturday; real life sucks =|

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Never seen any of them, never read any of the books, and don't ever plan to.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">BURN THE HERITIC! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

why?

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Just doesn't interest me.

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agub...abu...ahb...ahg...*thunk*

what? just JRRT or fantasy in general?

[ December 17, 2003, 06:16: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Can we visit? I'll book our aifair right now.

Got DVD 1 Last year, Will get DVD 2 this year and will see 3 after a Xmas

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Ahhhh....










That's about all I can say.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL...that's true!

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Still haven't seen the extended Two Towers dvd I bought recently, but I'm going to see the movie in about 2 hours from now. Can't wait. It's supposed to be the best of the three, and I truly hope it is.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">From Penny-Arcade.com:

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well i just watched the extended Version of the two towers.

All I have to say is that it was a completely different movie. ( i saw the other Version 2 times )

I thought the extended Version was beautiful. I cannot wait to see #3 but I am looking more forward to seeing the extended Version this time next year.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Note: Some of us might actually refuse to see the movies precisely because we like the books. It is well known that you cannot cram the story of LotR into even three movies, so he inevitably had to mutilate the story to make these... 'adaptations' possible.

Now if they made SIX movies (one for each 'book' of LotR) it might be possible to fit all of the real story in. Personally, I think there will be a 'miniseries' some day in HDTV format, maybe by PBS or A&E, and that would have a decent chance of doing it right.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My reading life changed when I read The Hobbit, followed by trilogy of books. I was 17 at the time. I had never really read fantasy. I was a sci-fi geek, but I had heard of The Hobbit and thought I'd give it a try. Kind of juvenile, but when I read the LOTR books, I was blown away. Now I read as much fantasy as I do sci-fi. I can't imagine not at least reading them once. The writing style may take getting used to, especially with all of that poetry and songs (which is the only thing I don't like about the books), but I would say it's a must read for anyone, whether they're into fantasy or not.

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Baron, the books are the books and the movies are the movies. One must not equal them. As you can do things in books that you would not do in movies,,, visversa...

The movies are beautiful to watch. The effort in creating the middle earth enviroment is worth it alone. The detail on the armor. The stone work. Take them for what they are an adaptation and interpertation of the book nothing more nothing less.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ditto. All things concidered, the movies are not only a faithful interpretation, but have some things that you simply cannot do in a book, like the imagery of the Elven king explaining the futility of his daughters love for a mortal king as the scenes of her future life pass on the screen behind or the expressions achieved when Gollum struggles with the person he is and the personality he hates... truly brilliant!

That said, the book simply MUST be read for those parts of the story to be enjoyed that cannot be done on the big screen.

For anyone over 25 (mentally and emotionally) the return of Frodo to the Shire is one of the most beautiful stories of paradise to be read and simply had to be cut from the movies. The extended stories are already well over 10 hours total and they took quite the gamble with that amount of material anyway.

If the movies detracted from the book, I never, ever would have seen past The Fellowship of the Ring. IMHO, they add to the experience of Middle Earth, and are more than a faithful interpretation, they deserve to be called the Lord of the Rings.

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Saw it! Loved it!, but tired today. I went to a Pre-party before the movie, got a bunch of free stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Saw the movie, went to a VIP Post-party, and got more GOOD free stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Got home at 6:00AM, went to work at 8:00AM (almost), then got two new SEIV turns to do tonight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif


Very minor spoiler.

I can't wait for the Extended Version DVD. You can see where some extra scenes needed to be to make it closer to the books.

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I heard that they are planning on six hours, for the extended Version of ROTK.

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Re Reads Last post:
not affair
Air Fair.
What was I thinking?

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Just got back from ROTK (and yes, I finished my PBW business before I came here, so relax, all concerned parties http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ). I must say that, for the theatrical cut (and those of us who follow these films know the difference between the theatrical and director's cuts), I liked this the best of the three. The theatrical FOTR was great - the theatrical TTT left a bad taste in my mouth. The theatrial ROTK is the best job of the three - but of course, there are things that we KNOW are going to be in the extended cut next year, so there's more to look forward to.

Regarding the Baron's comments - one of the problems I had with TTT originally was what you criticize - the departures from the books. After long discussions with friends and much consideration, I had to come to the conclusion that others here have already stated - film and novel are two very different media, and you cannot expect the exact same experience and story flow in both. To approximate LOTR comprehensively would take at least 50% more time than PJ has already done (and I'm assuming a 12-15 hour total of director's cuts when all is said and done), and to maintain the level of detail as the current movies in such an enterprise would be mind-boggling. I think the only way it could possibly be done is via total computer animation (like that Final Fantasy flick Last year), and that must wait until the level of investment would yield good returns - and let's face it, only real Tolkien geeks like us would sit through a 24-hour miniseries.

Enough rambling. Excellent movie. Go and see for yourself.

EDIT - P.S. - I must change my sig, as I misread the trailer. Mea culpa... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

[ December 18, 2003, 01:05: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">All fantasy, I just don't really like it. I like sci-fi though, except Star Trek and some others.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Do you like Star Wars?

If so, you should give Tolkien a try.

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Yes I like Star Wars.

LotR just isn't important enough for me to make time for. I guess if I got it as a gift I would end up watching it, but I don't plan on going out and seeing/buying it.

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people who've seen the movie, is it good? should i try to get there ASAP or wait a bit till prizes drop?

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AWOOOGA!!! AWOOOGA! SPOILER AHEAD! AWOOOGAAA!

What was with all those false endings to the movie? 5 times it went to an all black screen (or all white). 4 of those times it went to a new scene. And they all seemed like it was going to go to the credits! Sheesh! Those jerks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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It is the best of three. Surprisingly, because it is the second sequel and sequels rarely equal in quality to other movies. Unsurprisingly, because all the movies were shot at the same time and only end releases were shown at different times (one movie in a year).

You won't be disappointed.

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I enjoyed it very much.

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One dumb bunny's opinion...

http://www.theonering.net/movie/rotk...ew.php?id=1440

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really enjoyed it. will see it again next week. cannot wait to see the real Version this time next year

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Saw it, loved it, can't wait to buy the extended dvd to see all of those scenes they had to cut. The most disappointing thing for me was they cut out the real return of the hobbits to The Shire. I hope when the dvd is released, they have an alternate ending where they showed what happened in the book. And for those who don't know what I mean, you'll have to see the movie then read the book to know.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hate to disappoint you, but the Scouring of the Shire was never filmed. It apparently was PJ's least favorite part of the story, and he wrote it completely out of the screenplay.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You have to admit it's a awkward extension of the story. If he didn't spend an hour-and-a-half on that story alone it would feel rushed and incomplete. Heck it feels a little rushed in the books.

Unlike a subplot that can be addressed throughout the movie or series of movies, the Scouring of the Shire takes place all by itself, at the end, after everything else has been wrapped up. That's murder in screenplay-land.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hate to disappoint you, but the Scouring of the Shire was never filmed. It apparently was PJ's least favorite part of the story, and he wrote it completely out of the screenplay. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Darn, that's disappointing. But still, it was a great movie and I'll watch any and all extra scenes when the dvd comes out.

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Nice, GW.

I need to see this movie... I just hope I don't have to wait until it hits the $0.50 theater...

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Saw it Last night.

As someone who has read the books 5 times each, this movie was totally, completely, unabashadly awesome.

He made one change I disagreed with (the mountain men living on the edge of Gondor/Rohan are... changed. I wont give it away) but it didnt' detract much from the story.

Recently, my wife and I rented Tomb Raider. Afterwards I said "that was disappointing" and my wife said "you usually say that". Its true. I'm almost always disappointed in movies and tv. Lack of imagination, catering to the bottom line (sex sells! Make the good guys bad too! Money, stuff, kill kill kill with no remorse!) cut here, cut there, stylized garbage every Last bit!

Its been a long time since I wasn't disappointed. Peter Jackson read my mind and even took me in different directions while staying as true to the LOTR as you can in 3 1/2 hours.

Totally, totally awesome.

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Baron, they did it right.

my eyes do hurt, though. all those lighting changes...

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I saw it yesterday. I loved it.
Favortie scene: When who was it? Kills the Witch King

Favortie quote - I can't remember the exact words.
The scene Aragorn is promoting an attack on The Black Gate to draw Saron's attention. Gimli says something along the lines of:
"Outnumbered, little chance of success, lets do it"
Does anyone know the exact words?
Thanks

Worst Quote in all 3 movies:
Same scene as above Legolas says: "A diVersion!"

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My favorite line was when Legolas brought down the giant elephant and all the soldiers riding it and drops to his feet next to Gimli, and Gimli says, "But that still only counts as one!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I saw the movie Christmas day. It was very good as far as movies go, but I must say I left a bit unsatisfied. This one felt to me to be much the same as the second movie, only on a somewhat grander scale. Almost as if you could have watched part one and part three, and not noticed part two was missing if you hadn't read the books, which I haven't.

I had many questions about why some things happened the way they did, and stuff like that. I read the Hobbit a long time ago, but never the LOTR. I have decided to read them now and hope that it will help me understand what wasn't in the movies, but was hinted at. I reread the Hobbit over the weekend and have started on Fellowship now. It's hard to put down once you start, but I am sure I am not telling you all anything you don't already know.

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I think the actual quote is
"Outnumbered, little chance of success, almost certain death. What are we waiting for?"

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>Almost as if you could have watched part one and part three, and not noticed part two was missing if you hadn't read the books, which I haven't.

Geo, to a certain extent, one could say that about the second book too. It certainly was transitional. The movie struggled with it as much as the novels did IMO.

I the ROTK was the best of the 3, as I did with the book, it really is an epic.

I thought the ending scenes were probably unnecessary for the movie in that everyone I knew (who had not read the books) really didn't quite understand what it was all about. They could have just left it in the extended Version IMO.

I was dissapointed they did not film the scene at the gate of MT when Gandalph and the Lord of the Nazgul clashed after grond had broken that gate. That was one of my favorite passages in the book.

But overall.... very very good.

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Phoenix D
Thanks that is close enough for me.

Posted by Geo:
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Did that scene strke anyone else as being a deliberate "copy" of the scene in once one of the Star Wars movies where Luke climbs up a rope to take out an ATAT?

I have to say I really enjoyed the interplay between Gimli and Legolas.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Did that scene strke anyone else as being a deliberate "copy" of the scene in once one of the Star Wars movies where Luke climbs up a rope to take out an ATAT?
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That did come to mind for me as well actually. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Is that scene not in the books?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I understand teh need for transition when dealing with a story of this length. And to be fair part two didn't feel that akward when I saw it. It did seem to fit the transitional phase quite well at the time. But somehow, after seeing part 3, part 2 changed from feeling transitional more into something that felt redundant.

Perhaps if I saw all three in close order instead of months between them I will see it differently. I'll have to try and watch them all togehether some day once all the DVD's are out.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you read the Hobbit, then the LOTR trilogy, you'll notice there is a difference in the style in which they're written. The Hobbit was almost whimsical and childish, especially with all of the songs and poems in it. Then you read the trilogy, and it is much darker. Maybe that's why Jackson didn't film the Hobbit, although I would like to see a live-action Version of that. About half of the movie is from what wasn't shown in the second book; ie, when Frodo & company first enter Mordor, and what happened to Saruman after his tower was flooded. That's why the movie was longer than the other 2. All in all, though, this is the best fantasy movie(s) ever made, and I doubt we'll see any better for quite awhile. Sure, we may see some imitators trying to cash in on the LOTR whooplah, but just like the ones who tried to do that after Star WARs, most of them won't be worth watching.

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I always felt the LOTR started off in the style of the hobbit but progressed to something much darker and more epic. I think the films capture this well. I think, given good screen writing, the Hobbit could be adapted very well to the big screen too.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Of course not. Neither was that ridiculous skate/snowboarding scene in the 2nd movie...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The second book is transitional, but it does better. The movie is focused on Rohan, while the book is focused on Orthanc, since that's the center of Sauron's activity in the area. Also, the stopping point for the movie is pretty dull--I know you have to wrap things up for a movie; but it's not like a real sequel--it's a story in three parts.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGH! THEY LEFT THAT OUT?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

*stomps up and down, jumping in little circles*

Oh well. It's not like that was a dramatic scene, a clash between two massive powers, a test of two wills, or something that would have looked great on screen or anything. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Maybe it will be in the extended edition...

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One can only hope but given the scenes around the breaking of the gate that were in the theatrical cut, I really can't see it myself.

[ December 29, 2003, 22:43: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

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Some of the extra scenes in FOTR didn't look like they would have been there, given the scenes around them in the theatrical cut. Same with TTT. There are slightly different Versions of such scenes in the theatrical cuts to cover up the gaps.