Paranoia - What happend???
 

its acting like somone has changed the files or something. I am getting accsess violation bla bla bla errors.

I doubt my se4 directory has been messed up as it is not working on eather of my computers

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Ditto, same problem for me so it must be the turn.

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i have posted a message in the pbw admin forums for the pbw admins to roll the turn back.

you will get turn 27 again.

upload that turn and then i will run the turn off line

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Yeah, what the **** happened??? Who killed the Phentari and how close were they together? How did the Phentari slashing player rank? What were the stats of the players? I'm particularly interested in the gemini and thendarans who were the only real opponents according to me.

Damn to loose while being in such superior position http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I was second at 2.2M and had like 300 LC's heading for the gemini (who were not my target but just so damn big)

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Statistics
Empire Score Resources Research Intelligence Tech Level Systems Planets Population Units Ships Bases
Affront Hegemony 406867 88722 54745 0 47 13 54 4573 584 75 0
Ave Tenebrae 874823 259971 136405 39647 79 15 99 8101 4269 111 0
The Thendaran Clans 2468718 431923 236605 38590 103 14 93 7304 2252 131 131
scouters hive 363759 91179 29565 11315 51 6 36 5259 388 68 1
Silesia 1376464 390118 142249 34097 95 14 89 10244 1533 186 13
phentari 9200 600 0 0 33 0 0 0 0 1 0
GEMINI 2111450 1016584 589376 345690 114 33 268 13839 15304 18 0
Cluk-Ruk Protectorate 1155920 432515 139445 31160 79 22 135 10957 8008 138 1
The Republic 774960 186447 254871 20442 96 19 78 9300 572 42 27
Clan Trust 338856 94222 64054 9080 80 14 51 7700 1746 32 10
Black Metal Protectorate 2099572 599081 73064 142027 92 44 295 13243 2492 327 0
Sithrak Imperium 453449 148299 130650 0 100 9 34 7372 603 24 0
Trantor 280060 131200 58860 0 55 14 53 6449 402 27 0
Addisian 1493592 252039 170753 0 109 6 59 9540 3008 76 95

Rankings
Empire Score Resources Research Intelligence Tech Level Systems Planets Population Units Ships Bases
The Thendaran Clans 1 4 3 4 3 6 5 10 6 4 1
Addisian 4 7 4 10 2 9 8 5 4 6 2
The Republic 8 8 2 7 5 4 7 6 11 9 3
Silesia 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 4 8 2 4
Clan Trust 12 11 10 9 8 6 11 8 7 10 5
Cluk-Ruk Protectorate 6 3 6 6 9 3 3 3 2 3 6
scouters hive 11 12 13 8 11 9 12 12 13 8 6
Black Metal Protectorate 3 2 9 2 7 1 1 2 5 1 7
Ave Tenebrae 7 6 7 3 9 5 4 7 3 5 7
Affront Hegemony 10 13 12 10 12 7 9 13 10 7 7
Trantor 13 10 11 10 10 6 10 11 12 11 7
Sithrak Imperium 9 9 8 10 4 8 13 9 9 12 7
GEMINI 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 13 7
phentari 14 14 14 10 13 10 14 14 14 14 7

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Thendara was a very small Empire, but I have been leading in score for most of the game. I was myself attempting to reach the east as fast as possible, but only reached Stellar Manipulation V this turn. (Contrary to what my bluffing attempts said)

I had only 130 Battleships this turn, but with two hundred being constructed by year these Last few turns. (A bit more than one hundred space yards working on my APB/Organic Armour Battleships) So you would have had quite an opposition against the Gemini I guess if you had waited for a few more turns.

For the record, I was at 2,6 million points because of all my bases (131, meaning about 700 000 points), with only 93 planets. It was also why I went to war with the Scouters Hive to the south, as I needed the resources to put all these bases to good use. (And leaving my warfleet home was such a waste, wouldn't you think so? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">YES http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ June 20, 2004, 13:52: Message edited by: JLS ]

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I won, I won, I won.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Would have been better If
1) I had actually done it. (I mean, the Phentari were my enemy, but It would have been nice if I destroyed them)
2) I was in a position to have actually done it (I never even met them)

[ June 20, 2004, 14:12: Message edited by: Randallw ]

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So...let me get this straight. You won, but you hadn't EVEN MET THEM YET!!!???

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Sounds like someone forgot the rules of the game..

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BAHHhh! it was getting interesting to!
I dont know if I would have been able to stop the thendorian but I sure would have given the republic a run for there money, (who so thoughtfully bottled me up so I could not go north)

considering that I forgot to reserch in the first turn, I think I did damn well!

pity I never met my target eather....

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So is the person responsible for making all the rest of us lose going to own up???

If there was going to be a Paranoia 3 I have a couple of suggestions:

1. Make the map a wrap around one, I started in the corner and couldn't go anywhere, never encountered my target nor half the galaxy.

2. Make it warp point heavy to faciltate exploration and communication.

3. Try and have humans playing, the AI running an empire really stuffs the game.

[ June 21, 2004, 01:07: Message edited by: Joachim ]

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Paranoia3 Suggestions:

After playing both games, this one was too difficult to encouter other races due to the size and remote locations the outer edge races had.

Suggestions for next are:

I would also keep the map a bit smaller but use a cluster type system where each race owns a 4 system cluster.

10 races not 20, this would make it easier to contact all the races and keep the galaxy size to a medium type.

No turns can ever be taken by a computer. Which means we must recruit replacements before a turn can be executed.

Create a forum or use the game forum for all races to perform a yearly (10 turns min.) update of their race/status. Could be propoganda, enemy friendly update, etc. But more roleplaying from each race to enhance communication.

Maybe even a host that is neutral who can interview each race a turn / post findings, wars, large ship movements, warp creations, etc. Kinda like our current media who have their faces in everyone's business.

Just a few ideas.

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Carefully recording R-A-N-D-A-L-L-W in the "Great Book Of Sins" to repay him 100 times for his underserved victory. aka, no victory other than mine would have been deserved. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

As for Paranoia 3, there will definitely be one.
I would say a max of 12 players,and agree to the no AI turns.

And this time, I would say 48H turns max. Not 72H, which was too long.

I disagree for the super-media game master, but fully agree for the propaganda/call for help/status report writen by all players every 10 turns. Maybe nothing amazing, just some news to other players. Very good idea, I like it.

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Now, with Phentari being Randallw's target while he didn't even encounter them, a question arises: who the FUKKING FULLMOON NECROHELL KILLED THE PHENTARI WHILE IT WAS NOT HIS TARGET???

[ June 21, 2004, 17:03: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

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Oops, I didn't read completely and didn't realize I shouldn't have announced what happened. Didn't mean to spill the beans there.

[ June 21, 2004, 17:06: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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let me know geo... i was running the game... ps... i have a good idea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif