Question on modding?
 

Greetings. I was wondering if it’s possible to combine the different mods that are listed in malfador.com mod page for use in a game. I want to combine “Planet Assault”, “Deathstalker Mount Mod”, and “Dark Horse Mod” with “Fryon’s Quadrant Mod”. Any tips or ideas on how to combine the mods? I’ll ONLY use it for my own personal use. I won’t distribute or anything. Is there an addon program out there to combine mods? I haven’t played this game for quite awhile because I’ve been playing other games and busy with real life. So you have to bear with me if this question sounds like a newbie question.

Re: Question on modding?
 

Well, I have to warn you ahead of time that you're probably in for a frustrating experience. Depending on how complex the mods you want to combine are, you've got a lot of cross-referencing, re-writing, and de-bugging to do. Each mod author tends to write their changes as "stand-alone" (unless they factor in things like the Image Mod for their graphics), and often two modders will have conflicing ideas on how to do something that will have to be decided between or reconciled - and these changes often occur over one or more game files.

Your best bet would be to look at the features you like in each mod, and do your own mod to incorporate/replicate those features.

Re: Question on modding?
 

You can easily combine Deathstalker's Mount Mod, FQM and one of those other mods, as they all mod different things. DMM you need just the CompEnhancement.txt file. For FQM there are detailed instructions in its Help folder for how to combine it with other mods.

As for Planetary Assault and Dark Horse, I am not familiar with them. What you will want to do is figure out which one mods the game more heavily, and use that one as your base. Create a new mod folder to contain your merged mod. Copy the base mod into it. Merge DMM's single file into it (overwriting the mount file should be fine). Merge FQM into the mod. Then, go through the other mod and compare differences in the files, adding and changing what you want to.

Re: Question on modding?
 

Thanks for the input, fellow gamers. I figured as much. It looks like it’ll be a lot of work for me. I use to mod a few other games I use to play but it was hassle for me and I had other things to do in life. I was hoping there would an easy way for me to mod this game. If I have any questions later on about modding your addons I’ll ask here. I want the AI to battle it out with my Fazrah Empire, Xiati Empire, or Jraenar Empire using carrier battles as well as taking over planet bases like in WW2 pacific theater.

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Several races in AIC do just exactly that ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Question on modding?
 

Several races in TDM do that too... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not to sound descending, but:
I have played TDM years ago and they did not capture Planets.

Really Fyron how does TDM AI capture planets, the TDM AI construction file hardly makes Troop Transports http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Question on modding?
 

Then you played an old Version that did not have AIs capable of conquering planets... I forget which ones exactly can do so, but I seem to recall the Space Vikings being one of them.

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really Fyron, not to be descending towards you.

But how is this, the Vikings only make 20 small troops from the AI unit File and in the Vehicle Construction File in almost all cases make one to no Troop Transports maybe one more if the AI has more then 10 or 20 planets?

It might be my mind, I am not as very young as you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ January 26, 2004, 17:03: Message edited by: Grand Lord Vito ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

Just watch and see them doing it to you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The Earth alliance, the Space Vikings ans some other TDMs are doing it all the time.

Re: Question on modding?
 

PvKs Proportions does a very fine job assaulting Planets. Actually, most (if not all mods) do...
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[ January 26, 2004, 18:21: Message edited by: JLS ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really Fyron, not to be descending towards you.

But how is this, the Vikings only make 20 small troops from the AI unit File and in the Vehicle Construction File in almost all cases make one to no Troop Transports maybe one more if the AI has more then 10 or 20 planets?

It might be my mind, I am not as very young as you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really Grand Lord Vito, not to be descending towards you.

But how is this, the Vikings builds 500 troops from AI_construction file and build a troop transport per every 8 planets - normally it means 3-4 transports in the fleet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Question on modding?
 

Oleg, I think there is something personal between Fyron and GLV, going on here.
May be best to leave it alone.

I don't think I can take one more Fyron squabble on this Forum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif se4 is fun but it is only a game and there are many games...

GLV, it is also best you save your battles for nuetral turf or at least favorable turf; actually none (battles) at all is the absolute best.

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We all know TDM is the grand daddy of all MODS and we all learned much from the designers.

JLS

[ January 26, 2004, 20:50: Message edited by: JLS ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

Ouuh, did't noticed. Sorry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Sevaral TDM races are good in invading planets. But up to the point, because planet invasion in the stock SE is a gimmick. Proportions/AIC is a different story of course and a lot of effort has been indeed made to punish Humans for not keeping garnisons on the planets http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Agreed Mephisto.
The TDM Earth Alliance is a tough AI indeed.

[ January 26, 2004, 22:25: Message edited by: JLS ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If there is it is all in GLV's head... I have no quarrel with him, and see no reason why he would have one with me? Something personal would come as a bigger surprise to me than to you...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

[ January 26, 2004, 22:29: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">= = = =
Actually Fyron, it was GLV that posted a Modding Question to you, not I.

However, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif sure, you are the root of much discontent on this Forum and it may out way your 70% or less accurate insights. Moreover, a lot of new comers may be turned off by your sniping and opinions.


In addition, I feel the Moderators have cautioned you on several occasions and yet you continue. Myself and others really do not want to see good people with good intentions (whether you agree or not with them HARASSED BY YOU and to be honest this does include myself.

If you want the Last word, end it with a complement, not a challenge.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
Sure I can leave the forum as well, actually after the next AIC update, it may be the time to move on.

[ January 26, 2004, 23:10: Message edited by: JLS ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are the one that posted the post I responded to. I was responding to your statement that there was something personal between GLV and myself, which to my knowledge, there is not.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Umm... that could not be farther form the truth. Such a statement would directly imply that I actively seek out to cause discontent, which is simply untrue.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If they were going to be driven off, it would be from the whole thread in general, resulting in the behavior of all participants, not just myself. Trying to lay the blame for how other people react and post on me is wrong. And being driven off from a thread on politics or some other highly OT discussion is pretty silly in the first place. Such discussions tend to digress and devolve sooner or later, without my intervention even. There have been many cases of people behaving many degrees of magnitude worse than myself in such threads, and I tend to abandon them when they go sour anyways. Also, having a long-winded discussion on an issue certainly does not constitute any sort of wrongful behavior. If a person does not wish to participate in such discussions, they are under no obligation to do so. There are plenty of other threads to post in.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cautioned me about what, specifically? And what do I continue? Discussing things?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have never intentionally harrassed anyone. When have you felt harrassed by me?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It would be a pity to see you leave. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ January 26, 2004, 23:45: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Question on modding?
 

Ok Fyron, thank you for the reply.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">JLS, how many times have we hurd this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
If Fyron goes from thread to thread with his snipes and comments, you do it and see how he feels. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
When I first joined the Forum I tought Fyron new alot, until I learned. Now I take it for granted Fyron is wrong as much as he is right with his insights and se4 knowledge is better then some but he is the Last one I will believe on a subject.

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">JLS, how many times have we hurd this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
If Fyron goes from thread to thread with his snipes and comments, you do it and see how he feels. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
When I first joined the Forum I tought Fyron new alot, until I learned. Now I take it for granted Fyron is wrong as much as he is right with his insights and se4 knowledge is better then some but he is the Last one I will believe on a subject. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron are you going to answer GLVs modding questions or are you going to (comment) and then bail?

Re: Question on modding?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I see you have been a busy beaver posting.

Only as it applies to this post of yours QB.
It is unimportant how Fyron feels, how do you feel now.
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What you suggest will result in very little, perhaps at its worst disenfranchise you QB with this Forum. It may be best just to hold him accountable. However, not to any extreme.
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[ January 27, 2004, 13:04: Message edited by: JLS ]