Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Ok, I am official frustrated. Microsoft's latest patch has forced me back to using Internet Explorer (which really sucks) to get my PBW turns.

I made the mistake earlier tonight of downloading the latest Microsoft security patch. Since doing that I can no longer download and save ANY files from websites using Opera. IE, strangely enough, works fine (that is, it works as crappy as it always did)

For example, I tried repeatedly, using all possible permutations, to get my PBW turns. The files start downloading, and then Opera crashes.

Does anyone have any suggestions what might be wrong that I can try to solve here?

I use Win XP (home) and the latest Opera.

thanks,

Alarik

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Have you tried reinstalling Opera?

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Yes, reinstall Opera. So long as you haven't actually switched operating systems, that will probably take care of it.

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Its a problem - have you tried mozilla ? or netscape more compatible with microsoft - im assuming the open source community will be right on it though.
The patch fixed a database transfer tool that allows data transmission between desparate operating systems.

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Thanks all, I haven't tried it yet, but I will. I'll letcha all know how it goes...

alarik

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Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

I had to switch to Netscape after the Last MS patch for win2k. So I feel your pain. MS is about useless in helping to solve the problems there "patches" cause.

About useless is wrong, they are utterly useless. After about a month MS finally acknowledged that their patch had issues, and those issues would screw up many "non" microsft web browsers and on rare occations even IE would be effected. Well I was a rare instance, and had to go to Mozilla which I could not get to work either. Only netscape worked, and I have never looked back.

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

bah browsers are for the week.

telnet to pbw and do your turns with the command line http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I am using opera right now. Great browser..

I hope the reinstall does the trick..

if not try firebird

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Has anyone tried to sue MS for these kinds of malicious practices/incompetences. If MS was a hospital, they would be in jail for 2000 years!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Can't do that anymore! It is now Mozilla Firefox! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif (curses 8 smilie limit)

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Thanks all for the advice. I tried FireFox, it's nice, very similar to OPera, but I really didn't like the way it dealt with a few things, especially downloads and tabs (if it could be set to automatically open new bookmarks into *seperate* tabs, then I might have stuck with it, but I usually cycle through 20-30 bookmarks regularly, and having to "right-clik to open into seperate tabbed window" was too much of a pain).

And, Opera really does have a better layout I think.

So, in the end, I purged Opera, reinstalled it, and I can once again easily download turns from PBW! woo hoo!

thanks again,

Alarik

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

I switched to Mozilla about six months ago, and changed to Thunderbird for my mail client. They work MUCH better than IE or Outlook.

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You can bookmark a whole set of tabs, this might help. Sometimes, I too miss ctrl-click on a bookmark, but ctrl+T (opening a new empty tab) and bookmark clicking is not that much more effort.

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Is thunderbird substantially better than Eudora? I find Eudora to be pretty good, but haven't really shopped around enough to have an educated opinion...

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Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

Get the Tabbrowser Extensions plugin. Firefox (shudders at new name) is all about modularity and custom plugins that change how it works.

Re: Microsoft, Opera, and PBW
 

And Thunderbird is safer than Oh No Virus Installer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

However I'd say Pegasus Mail is the best free Windows mail client. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Mozilla and Firefox are great with Tabbrowser Extensions and Mousegestures (http://extensionroom.mozdev.org) and the Firebird-only Flash Click-to-Play is also very nice.

One thing to consider when trying Firefox however: the newly-named Version 0.8 is much different from Firebird 0.7 and you may find you like the older one better. They changed a lot with 0.8 and it needs time to mature.

Mozilla proper, of course, hasn't changed much in look and feel in a long time and 1.6 is yet another good Version. They've more than made up for the disaster of 1.4 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif