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1FSTCAT February 12th, 2004 08:57 PM

New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Greetings all! We're starting a new Finite Resources game with a few "out of the ordinary" rules. Come check it out!

http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/index.jsp?me...3fgame=1dmsld9

tesco samoa February 12th, 2004 09:28 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I am surprised you do not set it to only non-intercourse only http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa February 12th, 2004 09:31 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
and another question why do you not want gas?

I cannot figure that one out. As resource deplete based on gathering...

tesco samoa February 12th, 2004 09:32 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
and why oh why... I thought I had cut down on my games I am playing 19 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I thought it was 10 games...

Oh well make it 20 I am guessing

Loser February 12th, 2004 09:43 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
and another question why do you not want gas?

I cannot figure that one out. As resource deplete based on gathering...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Is he interested, perhaps, in balance?
Eliminate None or Gas and Balance becomes easier.

1FSTCAT February 13th, 2004 07:22 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
There's a bug in the game, when selecting "Bad" planet values, Gas get's large homeworlds while Ice and Rock get medium homeworlds. That's why the restriction.\

Tesco - Where in the world do you find enough time in your life to play TWENTY games of SEIV? I start to get pretty stressed at about 6, and I can play from work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

--Ed

[ February 13, 2004, 17:23: Message edited by: 1FSTCAT ]

tesco samoa February 13th, 2004 07:50 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
well it all just kind of caught up. I also run 12 games... so there are 32 on the list...

PvK February 13th, 2004 11:18 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I'd like to play, but I'd want it to use a mod which balances the racial starting costs, like PvK Balance mod.

It might be worth considering disabling all trading, too, to eliminate tech trading, though I'd play even if that isn't disabled. (See this thread ).

Might want to turn off surrender since you specify no quitters, and I've seen that need enforcing sometimes.

PvK

1FSTCAT February 25th, 2004 08:49 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Sorry I let this sink so low, I can't seem to get to this forum often enough!

This game is still open. We're at 9 players total. I'd like to get this going, beginning of next week. Monday March 1st. ?

Come join in, I'll entertain any and all ideas for game settings!

PvK February 25th, 2004 09:11 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Ok, I'll come suggest options. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PvK

Captain Kwok February 25th, 2004 09:19 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I applied to join the game.

But I'd rather see a 3 planet start, perhaps a FQM map, and like PvK suggested, his balance mod. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa February 25th, 2004 09:50 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
i forgot to join up. Ok I am in since stranger ended.

FQM is good if there is no damaging wp's or sectors.

But there would be way too many locations to mine from with FQM Standard.

tesco samoa February 25th, 2004 09:56 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
p.s. make the game forum available to all ...

1FSTCAT February 25th, 2004 10:00 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I'm really fairly mod-stupid. Should I look up the Balance mod, or can someone run it down for me real quick?

Why 3 planets, instead of 5?

Now that it's been mentioned, no trading what-so-ever could be fairly cool. That would also eliminate any advantage gained from one teammate meeting another teammate more quickly than the other teams...

Hmmm....

--Ed

Captain Kwok February 25th, 2004 10:04 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
5 planets seems like a bit too many to start. Plus - you'll be throwing away all those resources at the beginning...

...and depending on the final number of players/map size - may provide little or no space to explore before first contact with other players.

1FSTCAT February 25th, 2004 10:09 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Alright, proposed new settings:

3 planet start

NO TECH TRADING WHAT-SO-EVER!

Any nay-sayers?

PvK February 26th, 2004 12:04 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Those sound good to me.

As for Balance Mod, it makes no changes other than to adjust the point costs for creating your empire, so that many more choices are competetive. You actually have to spend a fair number of points for your advantages - it is no longer an obvious choice to max combat skills, take berzerk, and minimize Physical Strength - all the costs should be more or less right, and taking the best of all the most important things is either not possible, or you'd need to minimize lots of other things. See the description at the mod's home page, which is in my signature below.

PvK

PvK February 26th, 2004 08:13 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I just made and posted a new Version of PvK Balance mod to work seamlessly with the new Gold Patch 4.

PvK

1FSTCAT February 28th, 2004 04:00 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Okay, guys. We're getting down to the wire on this one. We've got 13 players. I'd love to fill it up!!

--Ed

tesco samoa February 28th, 2004 05:41 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
No Tech no Population. But do not disable it.

Selling should be allowed.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa February 28th, 2004 05:45 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
i did not explain my self.

I do not like trading population or tech...


But I do like later on in the game selling ships... selling resources... I can abide by any rule set up....

PvK February 28th, 2004 07:45 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Problem is if you can trade, you can analyze what is traded, and so there is a huge incentive to do complementary research trades with others.

PvK

tesco samoa March 1st, 2004 05:51 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I know it comes down to gentleman's rules then.

1FSTCAT March 3rd, 2004 06:15 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Okay, we're down to the final days. Anyone who's hesitated should jump on this! We're getting ready to rock and roll, our ships are fueled and ready to launch, the lawn mower is primed and ready to start, "Call to the Post" is playing to the horsies, and we're READY TO RUMBLE!

If you're going to jump on this band wagon, DO IT NOW!

--Ed

gravey101 March 6th, 2004 05:18 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I'm still waiting for my copy of the original Gold cd before I can upgrade to patch 4. Does anyone know if I can create my emprie with what I already have or if I should wait til I can upgrade?

tesco samoa March 6th, 2004 05:39 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
are u going to upgrade the game to the pvk balance mod

gravey101 March 6th, 2004 05:49 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
yes, I've got a copy of 1.84 with PVK installed.

BTW, I really like the mod.

PvK March 6th, 2004 08:16 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
I think you should be able to create an empire using 1.84 and either Version of the Balance mod, and it should work in 1.91 with either Version of the Balance mod. AFAIK, neither patch 4 nor the Balance mod have Version differences that affect empire files at all.

PvK

tesco samoa March 11th, 2004 05:08 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
empire will be loaded up tonight

1FSTCAT March 12th, 2004 08:19 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
We've got a couple of empires files that are fubbar'd. Those involved will be getting that ironed out before we start.

--Ed

tesco samoa March 12th, 2004 09:05 PM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
is mine ok... i used pvk 1.91 balance to create it

atari_eric March 22nd, 2004 06:41 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
So, where's Trollstomper? More specifically, where's his revised empire? I'm kinda growing impatient...

1FSTCAT March 23rd, 2004 02:54 AM

Re: New PBW game - Limited Resources 3. SEIV Veterans ONLY!
 
Trollstomper dumped, and some guy that I'd never heard of before took his spot. That guy did not respond to my emails, so I kicked him.

We need 1 more player, if anyone is interested. Check the first post in this thread for a link to the game, with a description of the rules.

We can start within 24 hours of a good join, and proper empire submission.

--Ed


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