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tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 01:15 AM

PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Just a teaser... Well the worst teaser of them all

The new Koth Maps are almost done.

This map pack is big.

Really big

200 maps ++++++ with equal starting positions. Crazy Maps.... Maps with single defenceive points and maps where you cannot defend anything very easy.

Small Maps. large maps.

Maps with only planet systems.

When.....

Well later this week....

I am almost done....

taterbill February 18th, 2004 01:48 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Right on... I'm waiting (somewhat) patiently for someone to join me in the middle of the hill, maybe we can be your guinea pigs.

Paul1980au February 18th, 2004 02:21 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
These maps well they should prove interesting - especially those defenseless ones.

DavidG February 18th, 2004 02:29 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Crazy Maps....
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm maybe i'll get back into KOTH. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Did you make a series of 'crazy' maps so we could specify "crazy tesco map" for game settings?

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 03:01 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
381 maps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

For the Koth 2 player games.

Then they will be expanded for Ratings games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Grandpa Kim February 18th, 2004 04:04 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Gee, Tesco, what do you do in your spare time? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 18th, 2004 04:08 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
does he have any? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 04:16 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
here are some samples....

sample1

[ February 18, 2004, 02:19: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 04:29 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
4 different maps to look at

map 6 is a small multi warp point map.

The traditional Koth style map with 2 key systems to defend. But many warp points lead into the two systems. East and West attacks.

Map 8 Is a new style koth map Very small and with every system containing planets. There are 3 main attack coridors for each empire to take.

Map 19. Is a twist on the traditional Koth map.
Now instead of 2 systems to defend there are at least 3 a side. Each system has a ton of warp points. This is another small map.

map 23 is a varation of the new style koth map. Not as small but with many attack points across the map. This variation is of the all planet maps.

I have some small crazy maps as well as some extremely large maps that would make even primative shake. ( Primative these maps are based off stock so rock none is not at a disadvantage )

Let me know what you think.

There are more than enough maps in this pack.


I did create a mod to make these maps. I am just waiting for some of geo's systems to add to this and then I will release the Koth Map making mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Tomorrow I will post a teaser of what I call the crazy map.

Also the 4 maps posted do not have the starting positions yet.

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 05:00 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Post you comments on those 4 maps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ragnarok February 18th, 2004 05:18 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
I really like the maps that have alot of warp points in them. I think those will be a bLast to play a KOTH game on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 06:36 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
I will be requesting them as well...

How do you like the system setups ??? Overkill and boring or is it ok ?

Ragnarok February 18th, 2004 07:07 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
I will be requesting them as well...

How do you like the system setups ??? Overkill and boring or is it ok ?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I personally didn't mind them. I thought they were pretty good; no complants from me.

spoon February 18th, 2004 08:38 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
I thought the one with a crazy amount of warps (19) was a bit confusing, with too many warp-points to defend.

The ones with two clusters weren't even in cluster size, so maybe you should delete out a system or two from the larger side, or place the starting positions so that neither side has a claim on a specific cluster.

tesco samoa February 18th, 2004 09:13 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
spoon. point well taken.

The maps are identified in their directories for how many warp points they have and the size and if they are all planet maps. Maps were designed with 3 , 5 , 10 warp points.


For the placement of starting positions. I will spend the time to attempt to balance this on each map. Postion 1 and 2 will be given the greatest amount of fair starts.

tesco samoa February 19th, 2004 02:53 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
The Pack has 501 maps. Here are a few more examples...


Map 2 is the smallest map going.... instant battle.

map 10 is a all planets battle will a small amount of warp points

map 20 is a variation of the all planets with a small amount of warp points

sample2

[ February 19, 2004, 00:56: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

Paul1980au February 19th, 2004 06:38 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Good work on those maps - when Version 1.9? is finally realised im sure you guys will have much more to work with.

tesco samoa February 19th, 2004 01:25 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
never http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


The map tool is a real pain... Crashes all the time etc.... It is much easier to design the big than the small

tesco samoa February 20th, 2004 11:00 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Update.

I will be testing the map making styles with an upcoming 4 player game.

And I will also be posting 10 maps its makes for the RTH3 game ( Cause RTH2 already happened http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

I will be sending a few maps to the KOTH controller Mr. A for testing.

Asmala February 21st, 2004 09:42 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
I will be sending a few maps to the KOTH controller Mr. A for testing.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">When you will be sending? I'd need them soon.

tesco samoa February 21st, 2004 05:02 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
TestKothMaps

Here you go. There are 40 or 50 maps.

When you use them in a game send me an email with the directory name and the number of the map and the game. Except for my games of course. You can send the info afterwards.

Players please comment here on the maps

tesco samoa February 23rd, 2004 01:22 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
yep there is a problem with it creating a ton of med none planets...

will look into it.

tesco samoa February 23rd, 2004 02:18 AM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
well i think i have it balanced for starting games.

Rock and Ice worlds have the following max facilities ( 20 / 12 ) These are large worlds.

Gas has ( 26 / 14 ) These are huge worlds.

This evens out at 68 facilites for each starting type per system

5 worlds for rock ice 4 worlds for gas.

Or just 20 facilites for all rock and ice worlds and 25 for gas

same thing...


And then the smaller planets would be in ratio of this.

Very even.


Thoughts ??

tesco samoa February 26th, 2004 06:29 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
I will be posting a few maps for people to look at tomorrow night.

With the new style balance based on facilities per atmosphere / planet type being equal per system.

Please check them out and get back to me.

Baron Grazic February 26th, 2004 11:22 PM

Re: PBW-New Koth Maps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
well i think i have it balanced for starting games.

Rock and Ice worlds have the following max facilities ( 20 / 12 ) These are large worlds.

Gas has ( 26 / 14 ) These are huge worlds.

This evens out at 68 facilites for each starting type per system

5 worlds for rock ice 4 worlds for gas.

Or just 20 facilites for all rock and ice worlds and 25 for gas

same thing...


And then the smaller planets would be in ratio of this.

Very even.


Thoughts ??

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just a thought.

I assume that when you talk about the facilities being balanced you are talking about for a Default Empire setup.

Does it make a different if both Empires select 'Advanced Storage Techniques' and one is Gas, one Rock?


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