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This is hard stuff to post...but I was just in the mood. Perhaps it will fall flat on its face but I thought I'd see...after all, it's anonymous. I apologize in advance for any slight to anyone whom I may have forgotten.

I'm posting just to see if people's thoughts run similar to mine.

Perhaps the info will be useful...to everyone.

[EDIT] Not posted in any particular order and names chosen based on my knowledge, the Ratings system, and KOTH.

[One more edit] If you are listed, you can't vote for yourself in the second question...well, due to laws of physics... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 22, 2004, 03:55: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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Oh I see, don't bother including the good people that don't participate in those silly Ratings systems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I see I have already offended someone. As I said, it was a tough poll to post. In my limited experience, you included, Fyron, all I could list is people I have played with and admire their ability, who have a number of games "under their belt" (or who have demonstrated some expertise), the KOTH system, and the Ratings system. Otherwise, what else would I use to choose names from?

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A hat? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I was not really offended... Though, I must say I probably have more PBW games under my belt than most. I have been described as a relic.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, Fyron, I looked forward to being in a game with you (TGE 3) but, as you know, turn cycle disturbed me too much. Also, I consider you more of a roll player instead of a "straight-forward kick-***" player.

Just my opinion...I otherwise know nothing of your ability.

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Well, as a newbie, I don't have the experience of even playing with, I think, any of these people...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, Fyron, I looked forward to being in a game with you (TGE 3) but, as you know, turn cycle disturbed me too much. Also, I consider you more of a roll player instead of a "straight-forward kick-***" player.

Just my opinion...I otherwise know nothing of your ability. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

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I would also like to apologize up front to anyone listed on the poll. After all, without their permission, I listed their name. No one likes to be listed in a poll and receive no votes. Myself included.

That's the reason I gave 3 choices. If I hadn't, everyone would have chosen me for both questions...just kidding...a bit of levity, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My role-playing usually supports straight-forward arse-kicking though... at least, after I stopped using the Kazharii Imperium... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My role-playing usually supports straight-forward arse-kicking though... at least, after I stopped using the Kazharii Imperium... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I know nothing of that Imperium ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ), either. Perhaps it's time we took a look at each other on the battlefield...errr...space field. What say you to a 1 x 1...your choice of settings?

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This will tell you all about the Kazharii Imperium. Incidentally, that is where my screen name comes from, and why I am an Imperator (same reason Master Belisarius is a Master, in fact). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

http://kazharii.spaceempires.net/

There is no RP involved in a 1 v 1 game. I am not really too fond of the 1 v 1 setting. This is why I dropped out of KOTH. I shall consider your proposition.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, 2 remarks...(or maybe 3...seems to be that way for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )...before I begin the read...I want to be sure I know the pronunciation...I'm anal like that. I want to pronouonce it like this: "kahz - HAR - ee - ee". Is that right? (I like names).

Saying you shall consider the proposition seems, to me, like a person scared about accepting the proposition, yet wanting to project the image of not being scared. However, I think you to be a person of straight-forward comments and will classify this remark as one of a person who is too busy (other games and school work) to commit.

Not to "pressure" you into a match...you should know I try to keep my game slots to a set level...and therefore, will not be able to let this be an open-ended challenge.

As we say in the south (that poor section of the US), "Poop or get off the pot!" (Well, that was the nicer Version... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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Well, we are getting a few responses now. And, of course, it becomes easier to vote as the number of votes accumulate. Easier to vote a difficult vote. The number of votes makes it easier to vote while maintaining a bit of anonomity.

Thanks in advance for your participation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Well, all you long time hotshot SEIV players should join the Zeta Qudarnt game, which, becuase of the structure of it, will be very competitive...and work it out that way...

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BTW, I posted the 2 questions for a reason. You may think about it when voting.

I wondered who people thought were the best players. And I also thought there might be a difference when a person had to list whom they would prefer to play with.

In other words, I think everyone likes to win. BUT, for an example, I'm not sure I would want to play with a person who dictated the entire game plan to me..."Do this, DO that!". Yeah, maybe we would win but to be a puppet might not be in the interest of everyone...win or not.

To give a recent example...a team effort with Alneyan and myself. Though our ability and Ratings may have differed a bit, I thought (think) our discussion on tactics and research, etc. was such that we both felt like each of us played an important part in the game outcome.

There was a game in the past where 3 of us challenged 3 others. In that game, I took a "supporting" role. Used my racial points to the advantage of my teammates. This is the point I am aiming for when I ask about who you would like as an ally. This is NOT to say I am the greatest ally around (and am certainly not trying for votes)...I'm just trying make a distinction between who the greatest (in opinion) players are and who you would prefer playing with in a team game.

Does that make sense?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I usually pronounce it like "kah - zahr - ee". The "z" and "h" mix together to make a slightly elongated "z" sound. The two "i"s just form one hard "e" sound. Kazharii spelling is weird like that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I like weird spellings. This is why I tend to use design name files like Adunaic and Kuzhdul (they are in Design Names Anthology). I should get around to finishing that Kazharii design names file...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I can see how you would think that.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Far too much schoolwork for my own good. :-\ I have cut down to just 10 PBW games! I swear!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I will ally with Tesco and/or Georgig any day. They really know how to form an integrated alliance when the need arises! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 22, 2004, 05:10: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I will ally with Tesco and/or Georgig any day. They really know how to form an integrated alliance when the need arises! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've never played with Tesco. Well, kind of...we are a bit together in Anklebiters. However, just so people will not feel left out, Georgig (whom I felt really lucky winning against), Alneyan, Parabolize, and Lord Chane are just a few of the people I thought about when making the list. Mark the Merciful is a very good player also...but he has disappeared.

So, I could only list the people I had some "history" with. That's why I said it was a tough poll to conduct and a poll that I wondered if people would respond to as well as if such a poll had ever been conducted.

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I know/suspect you are busy, Fyron. I was hoping you would be as interested to see if my rating deserved my ability as much as I wanted to see if your knowledge matched your ability. So, the invitation stands...just find some time and post the acceptance.

To make other comments...I don't think the idea of KOTH or a Ratings system is silly (did you say that?). I think, given 15-20 games or so, the Ratings system portrays a bit of reality in SE4 ability. As to my own rating, I suspect it is a bit inflated due to me having the opportunity to get some wins against some players with lesser ability. After all, I see that I have lost to players whom I think are very good players each time I have played them. Hence my challenge (in another thread) to get a team against me and my partner whose rating is close in numerical summary.

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Since I started this thread...I will add to the "stir" a bit.

Rex and Asmala: Iron! Solid! Steady! (perhaps a few surprises but straight-forward play...till gambling is needed... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Primitive: Steamroller! Watch out! (a bit vulnerable in the "endgame")

Geoschmo: Danger! Watch out! (willing to take a look at the opponent and decide to try something unconventional)

Who would I like to play with? Well, besides my current challenge involving Alneyan...whom I consider as calculating as Asmala but a bit more chancy (hehe), my choice is Primitive. Not sure what it would be like to work with him...but I'm sure it would be a rollercoaster! Second choice? Geoschmo. For a rock-steady game...Lord Chane (who, I swear, has a SE4 rating less that what he deserves).

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It seems this poll should have included an option for "I don't feel I have the expierence to cast a vote, but I want to see the results". Then again, perhaps it only seems that way to me beucase that's the position I'm in. An option like that might not be appropriate.

[ February 22, 2004, 12:22: Message edited by: Loser ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're absolutely right! I hate it when I don't think of everything and you can't edit polls http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif .

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all good choices http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I voted.

question one and question 2 answers were different.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what I was wondering about, Tesco.

Although, I feel kinda weird about listing people as if I was the sole authority on who is the best and such. But, as I said, I chose names I had some measure of experience with. Wish there was a way for "write-ins" in the poll.

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Some interesting results so far.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what I was wondering about, Tesco.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why are you wondering? A good ally should have some attributes which are not needed to be a good player - like reliability, communication skills, and a bit altruism. If he is a good player on top of that, it is a bonus. If a good player is a lousy bastard, I'd rather fight him upfront than having to watch my back constantly.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what I was wondering about, Tesco.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why are you wondering? A good ally should have some attributes which are not needed to be a good player - like reliability, communication skills, and a bit altruism. If he is a good player on top of that, it is a bonus. If a good player is a lousy bastard, I'd rather fight him upfront than having to watch my back constantly. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A good point.

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This thread sounds like a precurser to a no-holds-barred, 12-player, allies-are-for-the-weak uber-deathmatch.

In which it is revealed that I am not left handed.

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Rex and Georgig are the only two who beat me in the Universe Cup tournament, though I think if we cross beams again, it could go either way.

To do a poll like this with three choices, you could include three choices at the bottom for "someone you didn't mention".

PvK

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Since it was mentioned somewhere, perhaps a Poll for best Role-Players could be done?

I would but it's been about a year since my Last PBW game. Not much more than a hopeful lurker now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Though still hopelessly addicted. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 23, 2004, 04:00: Message edited by: bearclaw ]

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I see DavidG is still going strong at 0 votes. Of course this is not surprising since as far as I know you won't find a player with the name DavidG on PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I wrestled with it. I didn't know whether to use Kazarp or DavidG. I figured if people who frequented this forum had played with Kazarp they would know it was DavidG. Perhaps I should have listed both names...sigh.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I wrestled with it. I didn't know whether to use Kazarp or DavidG. I figured if people who frequented this forum had played with Kazarp they would know it was DavidG. Perhaps I should have listed both names...sigh. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well it's good you didn't. It would be embarassing for all the other players when Kazarp got all the votes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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What's surprising is the number of people who prefer that back-stabbing Geo for an ally http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

(J/K...I guess it really speaks well of him in multiplayer games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif )

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i'm the best player.

why? let's look at this logically. i have never lost a single multiplayer game. everybody on that list has probably lost at least one. therefore, i'm the best player. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That just means you haven't tried hard enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That just means you haven't tried hard enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">actually, it means both of the ones i'm in are still going. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

but i can honestly say that i have never lost a single multiplayer game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Well if you played against me you would not break the winning streak. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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what winning streak? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif i just don't have a lossing streak! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Wow! I'm honored by being on the list of choices! Thanks Slynky.

However, I'm dishonored at the lack of respect my peers exhibit, by not voting for me! LOL

It's obvious that I don't socialize enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I intend to play against every one of you (who haven't beat me already), and show you just what I'm made of!

--Ed

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In my case, I don't do enough thrashing, so in order to get votes, I'd have to suck up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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Roleplayers....

There are some great roll players out there...

3 off the top of my head...

GrandpaKim
Tnarg
Gandalph
Saxon
Dogscoff
Geo
Ed
Tesco http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
E3
Kwok
Fryon
Thermo
Hmm thats more and I would have to look at the games I played over the years for good Rping players...

You could add Georgig if you classify
:-p and ;-p as roll play

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That is a few more than 3... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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it's divisable by three.

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You must have been extremely bored to count them.

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takes about four seconds. the human brain can count things in Groups of four or less easily. five, for me, took a little work. and tends to be a quick combo of three and two.

[ February 26, 2004, 05:09: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]