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Ruatha March 11th, 2004 08:09 AM

Gallipoli all over again.
 
Based on a true in-game event

The fleet had been under construction for many years, it was now the most powerful weapon in the known universe.
The time for the attack upon the hated enemy was drawing close.
In the heaquarter General Usher was talking to the rest of the staff;
-"The fleet is almost ready, soon the enemy cities will burn with our vengeful fire!
But I've had an idea. Instead of glassing these worlds, why don't we invade them?
We'll get alot of slave labour, ready constructed facilities and forward resupply and repair depots!
I've checked our planets and seen that we have a lot of troops on many planets. They have been there for many years keeping the population happy but not doing much.
It's time to change that!
I've ordered the construction of troop deploying ships, these are now loading troops around the empire and heading for a rendezvous with the fleet.
Soon the enemy planets will be ours! Whoa ha ha ha!"


A couple of months later the enemy territory was reached.
The fleet cleared away the enemy ships defending the planet, the defence satelites was swiftly destroyed.
The troop ships moved in and started deploying the troops....

Back at the headquarter the reports where streaming in.

General Usher was reporting to the Grand Admiral who asked:
"- So General Usher, how is your plan with the ground attacks working out?"

"-Well, not quite as good as I expected...
We have reports sofar of 23 enemy causalties.
One of the enemy commandos was caught by one of our regements, he tried to escape our wrath by hiding his identity and was heard screaming ' No, I'm just a goat shephard!!' right before he received the first blow across his face.
But hey, who wouldn't lie when faced by 200 of our finest, wielding their rubber battons in the air!! Whoa ha ha. And those 22 goats where looking really menacing, I've heard!"

"-Hmm, not quite as expected I see! What are our causalties?"

"-Let me see....", the General looked through his papers.
"Hmm, yes, yes. The first report says 183 945 lost in combat."

"-What!!!"

"-Well, you see. The enemy isn't fighting fair. They are using fire arms. Our troops are local police troops. They are just equipped with rubber batoons. It's always worked well to quell local uprisings before.
But these enemies don't seem as intimidated by the batoons as they should!
But no worry. The second wave of approximately one million batoon yielding troops are being deployed as we speak, and then we will surely see victory.
The setbacks so far are only a result of bad training with the batoons. This shall learn our troops to pay more attention to their drill sergeants in the future!!"


.......

The invasion was not so successful. (But the glassing was).
The troops had been sitting there for oh, perhaps 100 turns.
I'd named them "infantry 1" and forgotten about the "non-arming" bit....

So now I've gone to the history of my people as the mad General!

[ March 11, 2004, 06:16: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

narf poit chez BOOM March 11th, 2004 09:20 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
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primitive March 11th, 2004 09:37 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
LOL,
Been there, done that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thats why I always put in at least 1 DUC on my police troops.

Puke March 11th, 2004 10:12 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
why was the police troop carying a DUC? there is a punchline in there somewhere, im just not sure what it is..

narf poit chez BOOM March 11th, 2004 10:15 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
so the bullets go over their heads?

sachmo March 11th, 2004 10:24 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Puke:
why was the police troop carying a DUC?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So they could QUACK down on crime?


I am someone's father. Forgive me.

primitive March 11th, 2004 11:11 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Puke:
why was the police troop carying a DUC? there is a punchline in there somewhere, im just not sure what it is..
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://www.notduck.com/images/duckfarside.jpg

Randallw March 12th, 2004 02:29 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Thats not really Gallipoli. Your problem was you made a mistake with your own troops. The real Gallipoli was troops being sacrificed to the incompetence of an allies command (WC)

narf poit chez BOOM March 12th, 2004 05:54 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
I vote for Primitives for funny and Sachmo's for relavance and funny.

oleg March 12th, 2004 03:35 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Randallw:
... The real Gallipoli was troops being sacrificed to the incompetence of an allies command (WC)...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's exactly the point of his story http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif !

tesco samoa March 12th, 2004 04:58 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
sacrificed against highly motivated and skilled truoops. The Turkish troops really beat up on the Allied troops. Even if the leadership was better the Allied troops would not have beaten the Turkish troops. They were very good soldiers. It was a very important victory for the Turkish.

Randallw March 14th, 2004 04:45 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
I do not deny the Turkish were good. Here in Australia we consider the turkish honourable and worthy opponents who beat us, and don't forget they were led by the guy who went on to be the father of his nation (can't fight destiny). Its just things like the British sending us to the wrong beach.

[ March 14, 2004, 02:50: Message edited by: Randallw ]

Renegade 13 March 14th, 2004 07:28 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Just like the Canadians at Dieppe. Poor planning by the British superior officers.

TerranC March 14th, 2004 08:02 AM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Poor planning by the British superior officers.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Was it? I thought it was due to underestimation of german defenses in Dieppe by Allied Commanders, resulting in a massacre.

tesco samoa March 14th, 2004 04:00 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Dieppe achieved its higher goals. While the raid itself was a failure due to the loss of life. It's ultimate goals were achieved. Thus the raid can be seen as a sucess. And if your going to just blame the British you must also add in the Canadian command who were itching to get into a good fight, and this goes all the way to the top (M-K)

The 1916 campaign in turkey was flawed from the get go. It would never have succedded. Geography and Defence would have beaten even the soundest of plans. It was just a poor location for an offence. And logistics proove this as well. Just look at the amount of water that a allied soldier received each day.


Just opinions.

Such as why does the whole world know about Erwin Rommel ?

In reality he was a minor general whos only success came after Battle of Beda Fomm when the british weakened the standing strenght to help with greece. He did not understand modern fighting from a area commander at all. Logistics were not understood at all. To be a quarter master under Rommel would have been very frustrating. His afrika corps used more supplies in a day than the big american corps in 1944. And with his level of consumption vs what was in storage and being delivered per day. Failure was the only outcome.

And it was.

I always felt that the British and Americans built up legends such as Rommel to cover up for the inferior equiptment they used against the Germans.
Maybe one day i will write a book about it to proove my point.

Renegade 13 March 14th, 2004 05:18 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
Yes, Dieppe was also the fault of the Canadian military command.

Terran C: Yes, the German defenses were formidable at that location, however, if the Canadian troops had had the air support they had been promised, the fight would have been more of a fight, and less of a massacre. However, for some reason, the air support was delayed, but the ground invasion went on anyways....in daylight. The raid had been planned for the pre-dawn hours so they would have the element of surprise on their side, but for some reason they were delayed, but decided to send the troops into the slaughter anyways.

tesco samoa March 14th, 2004 05:52 PM

Re: Gallipoli all over again.
 
119 planes were shot down over dieppe.

106 were raf... their worst day of the whole war.

13 rcaf

bad day for all involved


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