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Dude March 15th, 2004 08:26 AM

How do you build a...
 
cloaking facility?

Version 1.91 says in its history file,

4. Note - Spaceyards will not work on cloaked planets or ships.
5. Fixed - Cloaked planets were allowing you to add multiple spaceyards to them.
6. Fixed - A planet that was damaged and lost its cloaking facility would not decloak.
7. Fixed - A planet that scrapped its cloaking facility would not decloak.

And I'm like, "how do you build a cloaking facility on a planet?"

If anyone can help, it would be much apperciated.

Fyron March 15th, 2004 08:49 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
You have to mod one into the game first. There are none in the stock game.

gregebowman March 15th, 2004 04:48 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Speaking of building things, how do you go about building a ring or sphere world? I've only done it once before, and that was a couple of years ago. I've forgotten how to do it.

[ March 15, 2004, 14:51: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

Ragnarok March 15th, 2004 04:54 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Speaking of building things, how do you go about building a ring or sphere world? I've only done it once before, and that was a couple of years ago. I've forgotten how to do it.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe it is posted in the FAQ how to do it.

Power Man March 15th, 2004 05:27 PM

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How to build a ring or sphere world. In the Un Modded game.
First you need to study for the required tecks.

You need to get way up in Stellar Manipulation to get the Cable, Plate, and Ring world ship components.
The Sphere world component is, I think the Last level.

You also have to study Star Base construction to the end as well.

You will also need a fleet of ships with the Shipyard component ( I like to use a set of 11).

Design 3 types of the largest star base.
One with the Ring or Sphere World unit.
One with the Plate component.
One with the Cable component.

Pick a star, hopefully somewhere in your area, and start sending your construction ships there.

The first ship there should start the Ring or Sphere Star Base. This will take almost 3 Years to build.
The other ships should build the Plate and Cable Star bases. They take almost a Year to build.

For the Ring world you need a base with the Ring world unit. You need five bases Each of the Cable and Plate units.

For the Sphere world you need a base with the Sphere world unit. You need ten bases Each of the Cable and Plate units.

I usually mothball the Plate and Cable bases until the Ring or Cable base is done. I then Un-mothball them when ready.
Once all of the bases are done you select the Ring or cable base and give it the Construct Order.

All of the bases are then assembled into the Ring or Sphere world. It will have your Race's atmosphere and native planet type.

Just send a colony ship and Lots of People and you will have a nice new colony.
A Ring world has room for 100 facilities. It has like 150% of all resources. It holds Lots of population.
I forget what the Sphere world has. But I hope to find out soon.

Not I Just finished my first Ring world in my current game. I have a second one on the way. I am going to start a Sphere world soon, but the Last level of Stellar Manipulation is over 3 Million points!!!!

gregebowman March 15th, 2004 07:45 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Thanks, Power Man. I know I had done it once, but that was a long time ago. My games usually don't Last this long before I'm either getting my behind handed back to me, or a new mod comes out and I lose interest in the old game. But I got the tech for the ring and sphere worlds in this current game I'm playing; I just didn't have level 3 in star bases. I forgot that part. I was trying to remember how to get those big components in place. I'll do the research on starbases tonight and hopefully get started on my ring world and sphere world I want to build.

Renegade 13 March 15th, 2004 08:48 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
A Ringworld can hold:

- 100 facilities
- 32 Billion population
- 64 MT of Cargo Space

Sphereworld can hold:

- 200 facilities
- 64 Billion population
- 128 MT of Cargo Space

Paul1980au March 16th, 2004 01:05 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Sphereworlds are very useful but only if you are bogged down in a advanced tech game with 100+ systems and are looking for a resource / population advantage.

Atrocities March 16th, 2004 03:29 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
I love ring and sphere worlds. I seldom if ever get the chance in my games to build them, but at least I love them.

Paul1980au March 16th, 2004 04:07 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Yes sphereworlds are good - the only way i find to use is a pre map that setting em up - otherwise the other alternative is a really good run of luck with alien ruins - i once had a 255 map with 60 alien ruins close to me and i got a good run of stellar manipulation and got ringworld tech as a result - built em and quickly crushed the enemy.

narf poit chez BOOM March 16th, 2004 05:09 AM

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gee, that just might be a record for fastest topic change! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gandalph March 16th, 2004 05:30 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I love ring and sphere worlds. I seldom if ever get the chance in my games to build them, but at least I love them.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I love them as well. Especially when taking them with troops from empires that couldn't resist building them!!!

QuarianRex March 16th, 2004 06:10 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Back to the original topic (sort of), I noticed that the planetary cloak only works when you actually build the facility with the modded ability. If you mod one of your starting facilities with a cloak it will not work. Unless you scrap the facility and start over.

gregebowman March 19th, 2004 05:50 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I love ring and sphere worlds. I seldom if ever get the chance in my games to build them, but at least I love them.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WEll, I finally built a Ringworld Last night. Then i went to bed, as it was 1:00 am. In the next couple of turns, my sphere world should be ready to be completed. Can't wait to see how much of an influence they'll be in my game.

Nocturnal March 20th, 2004 04:01 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
gee, that just might be a record for fastest topic change! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WE REALLY LIKE CHEESE WE LIKE ZEPPELINS!

Atrocities March 20th, 2004 05:33 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gregebowman:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
I love ring and sphere worlds. I seldom if ever get the chance in my games to build them, but at least I love them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WEll, I finally built a Ringworld Last night. Then i went to bed, as it was 1:00 am. In the next couple of turns, my sphere world should be ready to be completed. Can't wait to see how much of an influence they'll be in my game. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Greg, what happned to JUST ONE MORE TURN? Going to bed at only 1am while playing SEIV is unheard of! Most never go to bed!

narf poit chez BOOM March 20th, 2004 06:47 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nocturnal:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
gee, that just might be a record for fastest topic change! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WE REALLY LIKE CHEESE WE LIKE ZEPPELINS! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ok, that was disturbing.

Kamog March 20th, 2004 10:18 PM

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I've built some sphere worlds but never any ring worlds. I don't want to use up a star by building a ring world so I wait until I research sphere worlds. But I have never played a game long enough to completely fill up the sphere worlds I constructed.

Randallw April 22nd, 2004 11:00 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
I laboured away for ages to create a planet builder, then I send it to a system made of nothing but asteroids.
"Ha,Ha !" I say "Now I can build a new planet every turn". Instead I get a message informing me I can't do it because there are no stars in the system. Now I have to build a star creator. To avoid further setbacks, can the star be built in empty space, or do I need to use it on a storm or asteroid?.

Ruatha April 22nd, 2004 11:21 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Earlier it was said "I usually mothball the pating and cable starbases until the "..
To unmothball them costs alot, better to put the queue on hold and restart it one turn before the generator is built.
Ships also costs alot.
Therefore I use lot's of shipyard ships(! Hmm, logical gap here...)
Send one to each star and builds a construction starbase there, that starbase starts construction of the generator base.
Meanwhile 10 ships with spaceyards components zips around to each of these stars and builds 10 new bases with spaceyards, then heads off for the next and the next and the...
These new 10 bases starts construction of the plating and cable bases, put's queue on hold until one turn before the generator is finished.
After that you have a ringworld and 11 construction bases to build weapon platforms and whatever...

To build sphereworlds increse number of bases..

Alneyan April 22nd, 2004 11:31 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
You should be able to build the star where you wish it to be, and you would be able to build a ringworld/sphere world over this star while converting the asteroids into actual planets.

mottlee April 23rd, 2004 12:27 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by gregebowman:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
I love ring and sphere worlds. I seldom if ever get the chance in my games to build them, but at least I love them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WEll, I finally built a Ringworld Last night. Then i went to bed, as it was 1:00 am. In the next couple of turns, my sphere world should be ready to be completed. Can't wait to see how much of an influence they'll be in my game. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Greg, what happned to JUST ONE MORE TURN? Going to bed at only 1am while playing SEIV is unheard of! Most never go to bed! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif SE4 is NOT in his blood (as of yet)

Fyron April 23rd, 2004 12:31 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
You should be able to build the star where you wish it to be, and you would be able to build a ringworld/sphere world over this star while converting the asteroids into actual planets.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Note that you can not build planets if there is only a sphereworld or ringworld in the system. You need an actual star.

mottlee April 23rd, 2004 12:31 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Randallw:
I laboured away for ages to create a planet builder, then I send it to a system made of nothing but asteroids.
"Ha,Ha !" I say "Now I can build a new planet every turn". Instead I get a message informing me I can't do it because there are no stars in the system. Now I have to build a star creator. To avoid further setbacks, can the star be built in empty space, or do I need to use it on a storm or asteroid?.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You must have sun to build planets, you can not do so in a Nebula (no sun) distroy the Neb then put a sun then Ring/Sphere world http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Arkcon April 23rd, 2004 01:03 AM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
You should be able to build the star where you wish it to be, and you would be able to build a ringworld/sphere world over this star while converting the asteroids into actual planets.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Auggg! Convert all asteroids into planets first, THEN build the ringworld, you can't convert asteroids without a real star.

I got a nasty reminder of this fact once. I was a crystaline race and I was staying in one system. I used the crystaline resource generators on every planet, then I built a ringword, and suddenly had no income. D'oh!

kerensky April 25th, 2004 08:08 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
Here is a planetary cloaking facility that I found here on a thread about a month or so ago. Just copy and paste it into the facilities folder.


Name := Planetary Cloaking Device
Description := Device which effectively cloaks an entire planet
Facility Group := Shields
Facility Family := 39
Roman Numeral := 0
Restrictions := None
Pic Num := 8
Cost Minerals := 20000
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 5000
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Shields
Tech Level Req 1 := 9
Number of Abilities := 5
Ability 1 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 1 Descr := Prevents level 3 Active EM scans.
Ability 1 Val 1 := EM Active
Ability 1 Val 2 := 4
Ability 2 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 2 Descr := Prevents level 3 Passive EM scans.
Ability 2 Val 1 := EM Passive
Ability 2 Val 2 := 4
Ability 3 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 3 Descr := Prevents level 3 Psychic scans.
Ability 3 Val 1 := Psychic
Ability 3 Val 2 := 4
Ability 4 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 4 Descr := Prevents level 3 Gravitic scans.
Ability 4 Val 1 := Gravitic
Ability 4 Val 2 := 4
Ability 5 Type := Cloak Level
Ability 5 Descr := Prevents level 3 Temporal scans.
Ability 5 Val 1 := Temporal
Ability 5 Val 2 := 4

Alneyan April 25th, 2004 08:15 PM

Re: How do you build a...
 
*Coughs* Obviously, who said a ringworld serves as a star for planet creation purposes? Oh, wait, that was me. I guess it says a lot about my *Ahem* love for Ringworlds. Thanks for correcting me on this matter!


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