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Enigma March 15th, 2004 07:29 PM

Climate Control Facilities
 
Does the Climate Control Facility change the atmosphere?

IF not what good is it?

geoschmo March 15th, 2004 07:35 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
No, it improves the planetary conditions. Planetary conditions in turn have an effect on the reproductive rate of your population.

gregebowman March 15th, 2004 07:53 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
How do you know when the climate is changed? I know the computer tells you when the atmosphere has been converted, but how do you know when the climate has been improved?

XenoTheMorph March 15th, 2004 08:01 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
It is the text under 'Conditions' when you select a planet. It varies from 'Deadly' to 'Optimal' and you get a Log message when it reaches the maximum value (the picture is one of a rainbow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Alneyan March 15th, 2004 08:04 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
The game will tell you once the conditions have reached the best level. I haven't found them to have much use though, as it only alters reproduction, and rather slowly at that. (The worst the conditions are, the slowest it will go, as it effectively multiplies rather than add)

If I do want to give my Empire a nice boost, I would much rather build Atmospher Converters, as the effect of these facilities is much more marked. But obviously, it is only if I am patient enough to wait for thirty turns before the atmosphere is changed.

gregebowman March 15th, 2004 11:08 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
If I do want to give my Empire a nice boost, I would much rather build Atmospher Converters, as the effect of these facilities is much more marked. But obviously, it is only if I am patient enough to wait for thirty turns before the atmosphere is changed.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I was playing yesterday, and it seemed to me that on some planets I had 2 atmosphere converters, and they were converted faster than other planets. Is this true? Can multiple converters and climate control facilities on one planet produce results quicker?

Wardad March 15th, 2004 11:13 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Climate Control is usefull for fixing the "Deadly" planet condition.
This planet (sector) facility does stack with other Climate Control facilties.

Value Improvement also stacks with it's self.

Religous Tech Trait has a Nature Shrine that impoves climate of every planet in a system. It also improves Value of every planet in a system.
The Nature Shrine does not stack with itself.
It is a system ability and stack with the planet ability of the Climate Control Facility.

Alneyan March 15th, 2004 11:14 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
These facilities (Value Improvement Plants, Atmosphere Converters and Climate Control Facilities) do stack, so you may build a few of these to speed up the process. The Nature Shrine does not stack if memory serves right though, so only one of these would be effective in a given system.

Edit: And Wardad beats me to it. While speaking of the Deadly condition, it can be very long to fix depending on the "number" of the planet. The condition value goes from 0.1 to 1.5, 0.1 being Deadly and 1.5 being Optimal. However, 0.3 would be Deadly as well, and such a planet would be much faster to go up than a planet with a condition value of 0.1. So it is very likely you will see different results after the same amount of turns.

[ March 15, 2004, 21:18: Message edited by: Alneyan ]

Atrocities March 15th, 2004 11:57 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
No, it improves the planetary conditions. Planetary conditions in turn have an effect on the reproductive rate of your population.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is good to use these in later games, and use the Atomsphere conVersion plant before you place these on your planets.

Idealy you will want to transplant captured races that breath differant atomspheres to your planets in order to make better use of them.

geoschmo March 16th, 2004 12:50 AM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Can multiple converters and climate control facilities on one planet produce results quicker?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
These facilities (Value Improvement Plants, Atmosphere Converters and Climate Control Facilities) do stack, so you may build a few of these to speed up the process. The Nature Shrine does not stack if memory serves right though, so only one of these would be effective in a given system.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually Atmosphere converters do not stack. You can build more then one, but the way it works is you get the results form teh best avaailable facility. SO if you had one that converts it in 3 years and one that converts it in 2 years on the same planet, theatmosphere will be converted in 2 years.

If you have two faciliites that convert in 2 years it still takes two years.

The value improvment and climate control facs do stack though. The more you have of them the faster conditions (or value) improve.

Geoschmo

Slick March 16th, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Quote:

4.3.1 Atmosphere converters can be scrapped after the atmosphere is converted. Multiple Atmosphere Converters on the planet will speed up the process. (Quikngruvn)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Geo, are you sure? This has been in the FAQ for a while and nobody has said anything to date. If it's wrong, I'll fix it.

Slick.

geoschmo March 16th, 2004 01:21 AM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slick:
Geo, are you sure? This has been in the FAQ for a while and nobody has said anything to date. If it's wrong, I'll fix it.

Slick.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have not tested it for all Versions, so I cannot say it's always been false. But I tested it with 1.91 before I posted and what I said is correct as of the newest Version.

EDIT: Well I ran a quick test for 1.49 as well and multiple atmosphere converters did not speed up the process. So I guess we can say that fact was just wrong all along.

[ March 15, 2004, 23:28: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Tanus March 16th, 2004 09:19 AM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
I also ran this test, and having 2 or more atmosphere converters did not speed the process up at all - still took 2 years

gregebowman March 16th, 2004 03:22 PM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
I don't know, maybe it was because I had placed the converters on these planets earlier than others, but it did seem to speed it up. I could be wrong, as I wasn't keeping track of the dates when I installed them.

Alneyan March 17th, 2004 02:31 AM

Re: Climate Control Facilities
 
My mistake, somehow I thought I had tested it and it worked, but I have confused my facilities I guess. (Can you guess I seldom use these facilities?)


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