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tesco samoa March 19th, 2004 01:55 PM

Hard Drive Failure
 
Well a dreaded hard drive failure.

So I am going to be a wee bit slow on the pbw turns... while i get the back up box up and running ( ie work computer )

So I will get all the stock games done first and then work on the mods.

Sorry for the delay.

tesco samoa March 19th, 2004 03:05 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
stock games are loaded and done..

mods

done ankle biters

other games i will have a problem until i get the image mods done.

so the following games I will be slow on doing some turns

Suicide Junkie March 19th, 2004 03:51 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
The curse of the Canadian SE4 players strikes again...

Who's turn is it now?

Cipher7071 March 19th, 2004 04:29 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Bartender, make mine a double...

tesco samoa March 20th, 2004 02:38 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
also those who send me email will be bounced as the email is full now

tesco samoa March 20th, 2004 05:46 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
man is 233 mhz slow with seiv....

Atrocities March 20th, 2004 06:23 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Why do so many HD's fail so often? It is because we all play so much SEIV?

Fyron March 20th, 2004 06:25 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
I have never had a HD failure. Sometimes, buying the cheapest you can find is a bad, bad idea. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

tesco samoa March 20th, 2004 07:33 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
well for me it is because of renovations near the computer room

Roanon March 20th, 2004 11:30 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Of about 100 hard disks I bought/sold I had 2 failures (after about 4 years of service) - both in the early days of HDs, both cheap ones - plus one 6 month old Maxtor Last year.
I also always advise to let them run rather than switching off the computer if it is for just a few hours or less. Energy saving settings for HDs are deadly. Usually HDs running 24/7 are the most reliable.

Atrocities March 20th, 2004 01:59 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Hell my 1.0 gig HD cost me $200.00 bucks back in the day and we all marvled at its storage capacity and now, it is still working and has paid for itself 10 fold.

My Last HD to fail was the one that came with this HP predessor and it was an 80 gig hard drive.

I can get a 200 gig HD for $120.00 bucks now. Less then a $1.00 a gig now. Compare that to the $200.00 a gig I paid for my 1.0 gig HD five years ago.

I think that is an astronomical decrease in price.

Cipher7071 March 20th, 2004 06:25 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
When I was in college, one of my professors said that what is generally roughest on a hard drive is switching it on and off. They Last longer if you just let them run. The power use can't be that expensive. I have never had one fail...yet.

Roanon March 21st, 2004 02:41 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I can get a 200 gig HD for $120.00 bucks now. Less then a $1.00 a gig now. Compare that to the $200.00 a gig I paid for my 1.0 gig HD five years ago.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Guess what prices will be in 5 years - 300 terabyte for 100$ ? Of course, Windows 3000 will need at least 20 gig HD space then...

My first hard drive I have seen was a small cabinet about 1 m high and 60x60cm in size. 40MB. Belonging a "mainframe server" with 32 Users connected to it, 2 processors with 64kB RAM each - filling several wardrobe-sized cabinets. Price something with 6 figures. Well, about 30 years ago...

Technical development in this area has really been breathtaking, faster than in any other area before. I see signs of slowing down, but not really an end.

tesco samoa April 5th, 2004 04:39 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
well the replacement pc from work died this morning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

so back to the 233mhz

Arrgh... SO I may miss a few turns on pbw

Executron April 5th, 2004 04:59 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Well I'm not that old so... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

But being a hardware maniac I've had my share of HDD.

My first one was a 1 Gb HDD *about...6 years ago* aquired with a 586 computer which ran for 4 with no difficulties until the power source burned it down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . Very sad moment.

Then i got a 500 MB Samgung one which Lasted till 6 months ago when it suddently died http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I leaped ahead with a 10 GB one *quantum fireball* which Lasted about 2 years until while diembeling the whole computer *like i frequestly do* i droped my toolbox right on top of the hdd... Guess that was too much for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I currently have a IBM DEATHstar http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif 80 GB 7200 rpm ATA 133 *which has Lasted for 2 years and still lives quite well*, one 80 Gb Maxtor 7200 rpm ATA 133 and 40 GB Maxtor the same specifications.

200 Gb of movies, games, programs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 05, 2004, 16:05: Message edited by: Executron ]

Ruatha April 5th, 2004 05:57 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Executron:
Well I'm not that old so... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

But being a hardware maniac I've had my share of HDD.

My first one was a 1 Gb HDD *about...6 years ago* aquired with a 586 computer which ran for 4 with no difficulties until the power source burned it down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . Very sad moment.

Then i got a 500 MB Samgung one which Lasted till 6 months ago when it suddently died http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I leaped ahead with a 10 GB one *quantum fireball* which Lasted about 2 years until while diembeling the whole computer *like i frequestly do* i droped my toolbox right on top of the hdd... Guess that was too much for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I currently have a IBM DEATHstar http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif 80 GB 7200 rpm ATA 133 *which has Lasted for 2 years and still lives quite well*, one 80 Gb Maxtor 7200 rpm ATA 133 and 40 GB Maxtor the same specifications.

200 Gb of movies, games, programs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Still got two 20 Megs HDD's, altough they don't run very much these days they are still flawless and Last summer they ran for about 10 hours..

Cipher7071 April 5th, 2004 10:20 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
The computer I still use is a 1999 IBM Aptiva with the original 8 GB HD. No problems yet, but I'm thinking it may be time to add a second drive, and back up to it.

edit: (gigabytes, silly me)

[ April 05, 2004, 21:21: Message edited by: Cipher7071 ]

tesco samoa April 26th, 2004 04:54 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Update...

Well the problem turned out to be a PSU problem

So I have a new 400 watt powersupply and case coming.... Today....

So I will still be slow on the game turn arounds... And some games are running on the download game... open up turn... and then hit end turn and then upload it ... 233 is a bad speed for these games.

To all the players and PBW Game Hosts... Thank you so much for your understanding in these troubled times...

On a side note... I discovered this thing called a back yard... Very cool...

Suicide Junkie April 26th, 2004 05:01 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
well the replacement pc from work died this morning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

so back to the 233mhz

Arrgh... SO I may miss a few turns on pbw

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you're blowing up all the new computers, maybe you should consider the power you're putting in...

Old computers are tough as nails, but you might need a power conditioner or UPS to smooth things out for the new ones.
Perhaps see if there's a signal analyser around that you can use on the wall outlets...

Raging Deadstar April 26th, 2004 05:05 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
On a side note... I discovered this thing called a back yard... Very cool...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Tesco, I must order you to head back inside right now. Back yards are dangerous players that us gaming geeks just don't understand http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Stand back guys, there's nothing to see here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa April 26th, 2004 05:09 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
sj the replacement was a plant floor system that had a lovely life in an area called body and white. Within 50 metres of this computer were about 100 arc welding robots, heavy fork lift traffic and about 1000 smokers... This system was in this location for about 4 years...

The power is fine... as i am running a stero system / recording studio in the same area with no problems...

tesco samoa April 26th, 2004 10:52 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
http://axiotechnology.com/newarrivals.asp#

The X5 is the one i now have.... In black

tesco samoa April 27th, 2004 04:55 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
well had to send the box back. there was a hairline crack down the back. so another few days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

parabolize April 27th, 2004 06:50 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
well had to send the box back. there was a hairline crack down the back. so another few days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">you got REALLY bad luck man http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Stone Mill April 27th, 2004 07:28 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
tesco-

If you took an ancient sacred idol from a cave in Hawaii, please return it.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

tesco samoa April 28th, 2004 01:26 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Captain Kwok April 28th, 2004 01:50 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
tesco-

If you took an ancient sacred idol from a cave in Hawaii, please return it.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wasn't that an episode of Magnum P.I.?

Joachim April 28th, 2004 02:06 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Tesco, does this mean you are not checking emails?

I sent you one and want to make sure that you have read it as I haven't got a response (which is fine as it is a 'game' communication and your diplomats have every right to ignore me!) I just want to check that it got through!

J.

Kamog April 28th, 2004 04:03 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
That sounds like something from an old Brady Bunch episode. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif That was a LONG time ago!

Fyron April 28th, 2004 06:38 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
http://axiotechnology.com/newarrivals.asp#

The X5 is the one i now have.... In black

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Case window... ewww...

Suicide Junkie April 28th, 2004 06:43 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
I recently had my 1983 PC fail on me.
However, with a bit of antics and hijinks involving duct tape, vaccuum cleaners and surgery on the motherboard, I've got me a working 14 Mhz 8088 based PC again!

I'm way out of practice in sopwith though. Scored -100 points http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Fyron April 28th, 2004 06:51 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Why do you need that comp to be running in the first place?

tesco samoa April 28th, 2004 12:41 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
joachim... i did not see it... a few mails were bounced... I have a limit of 3 megs.... send it pm here

Stone Mill April 28th, 2004 07:37 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
That sounds like something from an old Brady Bunch episode. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif That was a LONG time ago!
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bingo! Nice hit Kamog. I'm embarassed to say. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Although, Kwok... Magnum PI was cursed with wearing tons of cheezy Hawaiian shirts.

Atrocities April 28th, 2004 09:36 PM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
I recently had my 1983 PC fail on me.
However, with a bit of antics and hijinks involving duct tape, vaccuum cleaners and surgery on the motherboard, I've got me a working 14 Mhz 8088 based PC again!

I'm way out of practice in sopwith though. Scored -100 points http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You should write a book on this. I am sure it would make a fine read. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Joachim April 29th, 2004 01:31 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
joachim... i did not see it... a few mails were bounced... I have a limit of 3 megs.... send it pm here
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done.

tesco samoa May 11th, 2004 02:21 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
hehe... So I get the new box...

Well I go place the old equipment in the new box http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

and what happens... I cannot find the manual anywhere.

Bring work lap top home to look at manual pdf file...

And I am not joking here. The lap top dies... ( I get a new lap top tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

So anyways i get another computer from work... Install win 2k ... get a few viruses... Get that cleaned up.. Attempt to install adobe... Need service pack 4... get that and then download manual.

Read manual

Place old equipment in new box.

Power it up...

Works right away... Not one reset on anything... So I am scared..

But natually of course the freezing and crashing continues..

Go to reinstall OS

Its at work

So tomorrow i hope to have a new os installed...

So you may not hear from me for a few days.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

If that does not work...... and the crashes continue

I am going to go back to my first hunch which was the video card is going

tesco samoa May 11th, 2004 02:22 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
so those who are getting really ticked at me on pbw... Sorry another week of this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Atrocities May 11th, 2004 04:40 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
We all understand. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Those who don't, well one day they will.

Kana May 11th, 2004 07:25 AM

Re: Hard Drive Failure
 
Sopwith...now that is a bLast from the past...

At the time it was a great game...now it seem so kiddy like...

Kana


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