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Atrocities March 31st, 2004 06:05 AM

Robotech Ship Set
 
http://www.astmod.com/images/ship1_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/ship1_Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/ship2_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/ship2_Mini_Race.PNG

I have not done much with this set aside from these two ships. I am working on a few more but in order to complete the set I might have to use some creative license. Again the completion of a set this difficult would require some time, and a slight interest from those who would like to have this set completed.

[ April 19, 2004, 20:38: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Imperial March 31st, 2004 06:36 AM

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Zentraedi flagship and command cruiser, wow great work!!! The hardest part about Robotech ships, moreso for the Zentraedi is that there are only 5 main ships in there fleet, if you are going strictly by the first series canon. I have seen other concept drawings/ images from Macross that add ships to it.(Meaning that its hard to fill in gaps if you plan on doing a full set for SE-IV) but it can be done like you said with some creative license. The Earth forces have alot more ships to draw from. Still the work presented is awesome, well done, especially Coming from DOGA.
I am sure there are some Robotech fans who will admire these ships.

Atrocities March 31st, 2004 07:45 AM

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Thanks Imperial. This set will be slow coming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I just have to be in the mood to work on it and lately I have been kinda running on low.

parabolize March 31st, 2004 08:36 AM

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I never played Robotech but I really like the ships anyway.

Randallw March 31st, 2004 08:39 AM

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Atrocities, I have been unable to access ASTMod site or any of your links. I have no trouble with any other sites. Might there be some reason why I can't get your site?. I was actually thinking of making a Zentraedi shipset recently.

Atrocities March 31st, 2004 10:46 AM

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http://www.galileo.spaceports.com/~william/main.htm
http://www.astmod.com
http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm

They all worked for me just now. It might be an issue with the new anti virus spamming software they are installing though.

General Woundwort March 31st, 2004 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Again the completion of a set this difficult would require some time, and a slight interest from those who would like to have this set completed.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Consider a "slight interest" registered. So get cracking! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

pathfinder March 31st, 2004 12:19 PM

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It amazes me what you are able to do with DOGA AT. Bravo!

Randallw March 31st, 2004 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
http://www.galileo.spaceports.com/~william/main.htm
http://www.astmod.com
http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm

They all worked for me just now. It might be an issue with the new anti virus spamming software they are installing though.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I got the gallileo site but then when I tried to look at shipsets at ASTMod it didn't work.

Yef March 31st, 2004 01:59 PM

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Whoa, that shipset looks amazing.
I've never heard of Robotech, but I love those ships. I'm definitively getting that one when its ready.

What about the infantry and troops. Those got to be brainkillers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (Will they be legged or hovers?)

Tnarg March 31st, 2004 11:12 PM

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Great looking ships AT, so are you going to make a mod for these http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Just kidding, but I would be interested in any more ship that you make. Good job.

gregebowman March 31st, 2004 11:21 PM

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Count me in for being interested. Never really got the chance to watch the tv show when it first came out, but I got the first 2 volumes on dvd. Been able to watch the first volume, but haven't seen the second volume. And there are 5 or 7 volumes total? Like I've said before, too many dvd sets, not enough time or money.

QuarianRex April 1st, 2004 01:30 AM

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That is great work AT. Once this is done would you mind if I included it in my ill fated Robot Mod. The one thing that I'm missing is some appropriate robot pics (and AI files, and playtesting by someone other than me...). If I could get you to do some extra battlepod pics when the shipset is done I would be eternally grateful.

Randallw April 1st, 2004 02:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Yef:
Whoa, that shipset looks amazing.
I've never heard of Robotech, but I love those ships. I'm definitively getting that one when its ready.

What about the infantry and troops. Those got to be brainkillers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (Will they be legged or hovers?)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">For a minute there I thought you said Hooves. In which case, yes the Battlepods would have hooves. Zentraedi infantry, troops and mecha, have legs. If you did have Zentraedi they would have to have massive physical strength since they are 50 feet tall. To be realistic you would have to reduce maintenance while removing repair ability.

Kevin Arisa April 1st, 2004 02:57 AM

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Very nice. I would definitly download it if you finish it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 04:26 AM

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Cool, I guess I shall have to get to it then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have one of the blue troops (toy) so I can model after that.

To fill out the set and organize it I will need help on. Let me finish the other ships I have images for and then ask how you would place them.

Escort
Frigate
Destroyer
Light Cruiser
Cruiser
Battle Cruiser
Battleship
Dreadnought
Baseship

NEO
Scout
Corvetter
Heavy Destroyer
Heavy Cruiser
Heavy Dreadnought
Juggernought
Heavy Baseship

Light Carrier
Carrier
Heavy Carrier
Tiny Carrier
Massive Carrier

Space Station
Battle Station
Starbase
War Station (base)

etc.

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2004 05:16 AM

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From what I've seen of Robotech, the artwork seemed pretty lousy... but those ships look awesome! Good work=)

Ragnarok April 1st, 2004 03:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Any Feed Back?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes...you're breaking up.. I can't read your post... the feedback is too great... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

But seriously, excellent work AT. I like the ships alot!

sachmo April 1st, 2004 03:25 PM

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Beautiful. I'm ready to see veritechs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 04:09 PM

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I have made the Weapon Platforms and Carriers. The set is coming along.

Imperial April 1st, 2004 04:11 PM

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Superior work!!--bravo

Stone Mill April 1st, 2004 04:44 PM

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Sweet. Nice craftmanship, Atrocities.

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 07:04 PM

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Thanks Guys. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I am happy that people like the work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 07:08 PM

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The Carriers

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2004 07:54 PM

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Comments:

Of the ships you posted with variants, each time, I thought the variant looked cooler. As for the carriers, the top two are very difficult to distinguish for me... the differences are subtle. Perhaps the middle and bottom one could be made wider, or the top one could have some additional colored patterning on it (the blue markings, for example)?

Another possibility is the "thorns" on the sides, which could be varied in number for the different size classes. For the ships below the carriers, for example, you could give them 2, 3, and 4 side-thorns at the ship's tail - currently, the overhead outline of the bottom two is identical, as they are different only by a vertical fin and the grey tanks. Coloring the vertical fin so it is obvious on the overhead view might be nice, too, as would giving the bottom one wider wings. The red dots near the front might look better if you could move them out a bits, so they were visible in an overhead view...

Lastly... naming the ship sets (eg "Carriers") is very useful for giving specific feedback=)

Imperial April 1st, 2004 08:25 PM

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I think the carriers look fine as is-- but im not that asthetic(sp?)

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 08:39 PM

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I can doll up the second one a bit more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Carriers

Light Carrier
Carrier
Heavy Carrier

The Varients are actual ships that I have seen that were slightly differant than the once I was modeling after. I may doll up the Varients a bit more to distingish them a bit more, but right now I want to concentrate on just getting the set roughed out.

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2004 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Imperial:
I think the carriers look fine as is-- but im not that asthetic(sp?)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think they look fine, too; I just have trouble distinguishing between the top 2 carriers, and between the bottom two ships of the group of three below carriers, whatever they are. They all look great, but in the overhead view those ones are hard to differentiate.

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 08:45 PM

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Thanks Cherry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I will doll the second one up a bit to give it a tad differnt look. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 1st, 2004 09:05 PM

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The Carriers Revised

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG
Light Carrier
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG
Carrier

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...trait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec..._Mini_Race.PNG
Carrier Heavy

(Note they will be the same as the ones below because I replaced them.)

Fyron April 1st, 2004 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
NEO
Juggernought

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where do you keep getting this Juggernought from for Neostandard? It is not on there...

http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/neostand.htm

Saber Cherry April 1st, 2004 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
The Carriers Revised
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice! They're now immediately obvious, plus the heavier ones look more intimidating http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Urendi Maleldil April 1st, 2004 10:21 PM

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Zentraedi ships. Cool. Are you gonna do any battlepods? Or that huge mobile base?

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 02:05 AM

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Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 02:07 AM

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http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3_Mini_Race.PNG


And a Varient

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3a_Mini_Race.PNG

[ April 01, 2004, 12:08: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 02:09 AM

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http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4_Mini_Race.PNG

And a Varient

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4a_Mini_Race.PNG

[ April 01, 2004, 12:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 02:11 AM

Re: Robotech Ship Set
 
http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5_Mini_Race.PNG

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5a_Mini_Race.PNG

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/sh...trait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5b_Mini_Race.PNG

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 02:53 AM

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Any Feed Back?

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 06:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
NEO
Juggernought

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where do you keep getting this Juggernought from for Neostandard? It is not on there...

http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/neostand.htm
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I always include a Juggernought with my Version of the Neo Standard Ship sets. I don't have to get it from any where, nor do I really need permission to include it in my sets. I include it because I like too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 02, 2004, 04:36: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Fyron April 2nd, 2004 07:10 AM

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It is not making the image or including it that is the issue, but you constantly labelling it as a neo standard image, which it is not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Atrocities April 2nd, 2004 07:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is not making the image or including it that is the issue, but you constantly labelling it as a neo standard image, which it is not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron, bugger off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities April 6th, 2004 10:20 AM

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http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...TroopSmall.PNG
Troop Small

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...roopMedium.PNG
Troop Medium

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotec...TroopLarge.PNG
Troop Large

Shrapnel April 6th, 2004 02:37 PM

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Wicked set Atrocities. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the Earthers ships http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 6th, 2004 05:41 PM

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Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 7th, 2004 08:24 AM

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There kinda dark and hard to see.

And I got over 4000 Posts! Yaay!

[ April 07, 2004, 07:25: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

QuarianRex April 7th, 2004 09:58 PM

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The troops are pretty good but need a little tweaking. See if you can Bend the legs a little more and make the 'head' a little bigger. You also might want to use a scout battlepod as small, missile battlepod as medium and an officers battlepod as large.

Here are some links for pics...

Battlepods
http://www.chronocorp.com/covers/robotech02.jpg
http://www.lunamanar.com/starfire/pics/robotech.jpg
http://www.solarwinds.com/mac/images...h/rt-game1.gif

Officers Battlepod
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/KyleStra...s/Officer.html

Missile, Officers, and Scout Battlepods (hard to see though)
http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/...g-zentradi.jpg

Also note that the battlepods were usually blue/white or blue/grey (with the officers pods being darker and havind some red), as opposed to the solid green of their ships. The battlepods were also used as fighters. The third battlepod pic is of them flying in space. I hope that this can help a bit.

Atrocities April 7th, 2004 11:03 PM

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Thanks, Those help a lot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Imperial April 12th, 2004 04:44 AM

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a friendly--BUMP http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities April 12th, 2004 08:19 AM

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lost but not forgotten.

Atrocities April 12th, 2004 08:32 AM

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I guess I need to be honest and let you all know that I no longer have any of my files. I don't know what happened but a few days ago the computer shut off without warning, no reason for it, just an HP thing. That shut off compermised my DOGA files, my STM files, and a hell of a lot more.

I am just now finding out that most of my important files are gone. I discovered the error in the STM by accident and thankfully it was an easy fix.

However the ships for this set are not. I still have the 3 pods, but that is ALL I have.

The rest are gone.


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