What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

... that's my question, what does that mean???

[This message has been edited by DaveMan (edited 03 January 2001).]

Re: What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

Mega evil empire is the setting in the data folder settings.txt file that says when you get to 500k score and are in first place with 170% of the second place player score all the computer empires that meet you will declare war on you. If a AI player gets in first place with 250% of the second players score they will be the Mega evil empire so its not always a human player.

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Now thats just plain evil. I mean outright evil.

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Basically the concept is that if one player is too strong for any small alliance of other players to defeat, everyone will team up against them. So if you get way ahead of the AI, they will all declare you the biggest threat to the galaxy and try to stomp you back down in a concerted effort.

This lets the AI do exactly what happens in most MP games among humans. When one guy gets too far ahead, everyone gangs up on them until they get knocked back down. Although I don't think the AI lets up on you if they succeed in bringing you down to reasonable power levels.

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Re: What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

Enemy of my enemy is my friend

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"Rule 29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less."

Got that one from Schlock Mercenary.

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I have a few rules:

1. Any thing that can eat me is my enemy
2. Any thing that is not like me is my enemy
3. Any thing that I cannot controll is my enemy

Re: What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

Mega Evil Empire is what you get when you superevil the Sorta Evil Empire pack at McEvilEmpires. 50% more Evil, 150% more fat.

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LOL

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That doesn't make sense.
The US today have more than 250% more power than the number 2 on the list, yet I don't see the world ganging up on the US.
I think the oposite is true: the more power you have, the less likely anyone is of declaring war on you, and if they attack you, they use terrorist organizations so you don't have a target to strike back.

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The world is not a game Yef. In the world not everyone is concerned with coming in first. In fact, the great majority of people are content with just having their needs met and being generally happy. So as long as America is generally not viewed as malevolent, the rest of the world isn't likely to try ganging up on us just because we are in "first place". Of course, if recent trends continue, that may not remain true...

In a game where the objective is first place, you have a great incentive to join with other smaller empires and take out the largest empire before they get so big they cannot be dealt with. Since noone is actually dying in the game, you will do things that you wouldn't do in real life where actual peoples lives depended on it.

It's the reason why banks can be robbed without all the customers jumping on the robber. You do what you are told and hope you don't get shot. If the guy walks in and starts shooting people indiscriminantly though, eventually a few people will gang up and try to jump him.

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Like Geo said, the Mega Evil Empire algorithim in SE4 isn't meant to model real life, its a rule of the game to control an outcome.

Its come up before, someone goes Mega Evil, and thinks its dumb for all the neutral empires, and other weak empires to suddenly go hostile, 'cause they're too weak to survive.

The hard part is getting the complainer to admit that now, with everyone against him, with the neutral systems no longer being safe transit zones, with every ally resupply depot suddenly closed off -- the game has suddenly subverted his best laid plans, and has become more challenging.

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I am the mega evil Empire and I shall rule the universe!

Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Seriously though being the mega evil Empire has it's advantages, it makes getting rid of those pesky guys you never wanted to ally with in the first place, much easier. It also adds a "seige" like element which is IMHO LOTS of fun, barely scrounging up enough ships to fight off the raids for just one more month, sacrificing one world to save another more valuable one, oooooh I love it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

Quick! Gang up against Starhawk!

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Yes! Quickly, bring down the Mega Evil Icaran Epire!!!

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They're not evil they're just misunderstood http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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I'm pretty sure the people they conquer understand them well enough... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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What are some ways to avoid going MEE by hiding your true strength and artificially lowering your score?
For example, build up tons of fighters and drones which don't count towards your score, and keep as many ships mothballed as possible.

How about if you have a lot of excess resource production that you don't need, then scrap some space ports to lower your production, but be ready to rebuild them immediately when the need arises. Or bLockade some of your own pLanets to reduce production temporarily. Design an escort with no engines or weapons, build it in orbit above your pLanet, and trade it to an enemy A.I. so that your pLanet gets bLockaded by it. When you need the resource production again, attack the ship and destroy it.

Build lots of cheap and useless star bases somewhere and gift them to the A.I. until the A.I.'s score gets huge, so you aLways stay in second pLace.

Re: What is \"Mega Evil Empire\" ... ?
 

Well some must fall in the divine quest yah know :p

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Kamog said:
"How about if you have a lot of excess resource production that you don't need, then scrap some space ports to lower your production, but be ready to rebuild them immediately when the need arises."

Oh that's a nice trick. Sometimes, when I'm screwing around with the facilities in some new mod, I'll go Mega Evil without having any ships to speak of. Never occured to me to artificially reduce income in that way.

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Padding your post with capitalized second letter "L"s, I see. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

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Geoschmo, I think America is malevolent... (nothing personal, tho)

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You are.

Feels good, doesn't it?

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It doesn't really. Being Mega Evil Empire induces paranoia, and things of the like. It is so annoying to have a flashing target painted on your back when you have a lot of human neighbours everywhere. Always suspecting allies, looking for the Empire(s) who would jump on you at the slightest sign of aggression, and Empires going AI need to be taken down without arousing fear.

So MEE is certainly no sinecure in multiplayer games. But don't tell anyone I said that. In fact, forget you have met me, I am not sure I trust you. I am quite positive you are plotting in my back, despite all your claims of friendship and all. Hmm... Nay, just kidding, you were actually the Empire I distrusted the least in TGE3.