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Andrés April 7th, 2004 05:26 AM

SE3 shipsets
 
Does anyone have a copy of the pseudo-3d conVersions I have made. I seem to have lost them.
I had uploaded them only to the cyberwars site and they are down or inaccessible as everything else there.
I thought I had local copies (either HD or CD backup) of all of my shipsets, but I have evidently missed these ones.

I still have the 3ds file I had used and the original se3 shipsets so I guess I could remake them, but it'd be a waste.

I made a few web searches but I couldn't find them Online anywhere. So please tell me if you know of a link or contact me if you can send it.


All of this is because I had finally started to fool around with 3dsmax again and I'm having some promising results in creating truly modeled 3d ships based on the SE3 shipsets.
I won't promise a finished shipset anytime soon, because everytime I do this I end up faulting my word, but I have made a couple of ships that look acceptable (to me) of one of the SE3 shipsets I missed the most (and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one), number 12.

I will also accept contributions of anyone who want to write some fitting AI and/or racial descriptions, otherwise I will en up giving them a copied AI like with the pseudo 3d.

leo1434 April 7th, 2004 05:42 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Hi Andres!

If you remember how were the files called, or if they had a race name, it is probable I had them copied in a CD. Sometime ago I downloaded every shipset I found in all the SE4 pages I knew and burned them in a CD, so If you tell me how were the races called may be I can help you.

dogscoff April 7th, 2004 08:37 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Think I might have them somewhere...

*rummage rummage*

Yeah, I have style003 to style014 here. Not sure what happened to styles 001 and 002, but I've a feeling they might have been redundant because they were "officiallyt" converted to se4 shipsets as the Krill and Jraenar.

Anyway, I'll zip them up and see if my webmail can handle sending them to you. =-)

PvK April 7th, 2004 08:45 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
They are listed on Trooper's shipset site as being on Kuat Drive Yards, but discontinued. Kuat annoyingly re-did it's site format but dropped most of the available shipsets as "not up again yet" indefinitely.

I probably have them on a CD backup _somewhere_ too. Anyway they were apparently named STYLE003 through STYLE014 (see http://diesel2035.free.fr/racedir/index2.htm, near the bottom ).

PvK

narf poit chez BOOM April 7th, 2004 08:48 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Who runs kaut anyway?

PvK April 7th, 2004 08:52 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
pathfinder (member 441) mentioned them showing up in a game of his in this thread.

PvK

pathfinder April 7th, 2004 11:20 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PvK:
pathfinder (member 441) mentioned them showing up in a game of his in this thread.

PvK

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I still have them. I can put them into a self-extracting winrar.exe and e-mail them.
Got that WinRar file ready. Just under 2MB of compressed file. Sent to the e-mail address in your profile.

[ April 07, 2004, 10:45: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

trooper April 7th, 2004 11:37 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Andres, send me a little message as soon as you have them Online http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Andrés April 7th, 2004 02:15 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Thanks Dogscoff and Pathfinder I recieved the files OK.
I should have instructed to post here before sending them, since your two Messages filled most of my 6 mb inbox (if anyone else tried to send them they must have bounced back).

Oh, and I run the Kuat Drive Yards site, althoug I have lost contact with my former host Rimfire from cyberwars.com, and haven't had the time time to rebuild the site since.

And ds, style001 and 002 were the Jraenar and Amon'krie, not the Krill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

What I'm trying to do now is a similar conVersion for some of the others.

I have to go back to work now, but I may post some previews later.

Andrés April 7th, 2004 04:06 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
I wanted those shipsets to compare them with what I'm working on now.
Like this:

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012.gif
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/sty...readnought.jpg http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/set...readnought.jpg

Ragnarok-X April 7th, 2004 05:44 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
the set looks quite awesome, i never seen something similar before ^^

dogscoff April 7th, 2004 08:04 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Oh.

Wow!

Beautiful pic. Probably the best ship I have ever seen on these forums. ANd I don't look at ships anywere else...

narf poit chez BOOM April 7th, 2004 08:13 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Very nice ships.

Ragnarok April 7th, 2004 08:18 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Very nice ships.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is a very nice image, Andres!

I am guessing Fyron will drop by when the set is complete and say something along the lines of: "That would look mighty nice as a organic race in the Adamant mod." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I look forward to the completed set!

Baron Munchausen April 7th, 2004 08:27 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Yeah, there were lots of nice ship sets for SE III. I'd like to see more of them converted to SE IV format. There was a beautiful 'Islamic' set, for example, that would probably be 'politically incorrect' now. But they were quite impressive, with dramatic sweeping 'wings' and the crescent logo on them.

narf poit chez BOOM April 7th, 2004 08:42 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Yeah, there were lots of nice ship sets for SE III. I'd like to see more of them converted to SE IV format. There was a beautiful 'Islamic' set, for example, that would probably be 'politically incorrect' now. But they were quite impressive, with dramatic sweeping 'wings' and the crescent logo on them.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Strangely enough, political correctness plays no part in my descision-making process.

Ragnarok-X April 7th, 2004 09:48 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Strangely enough, political correctness plays no part in my descision-making process.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree, as long as it looks good and fits the style its okay.

pathfinder April 7th, 2004 10:49 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andres:
I wanted those shipsets to compare them with what I'm working on now.
Like this:

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012.gif
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/sty...readnought.jpg http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/set...readnought.jpg

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice work!

Sefter Aruna April 7th, 2004 11:01 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Nice pics!!! If you need some SEIII races I have a good number of them in storege some where.

Fyron April 8th, 2004 04:11 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
I have a few hundred SE3 shipsets available to download in one file on SpaceEmpires.net.

Download SE3 Ship Sets - 1.61 MBs
List of sets in preceding file.

By the way, if you have more SE3 sets that are not in that file, feel free to email them (zipped) to admin spaceempires net (insert @ and .).

[ April 08, 2004, 03:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Andrés April 8th, 2004 05:03 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Yeah there were many more SE3 shipsets than SE4 ones, and many of them are very cool.
I guess that it's because it's much easier to make or edit a 32x32 bitmap and you don't need any special graphics program almost every player had created at least one shipset.

For SE4 you need to draw larger and more detailed portraits, for what you need some graphics program, 3d for almost all of the shipsets, although there are a few 2d exceptions such as Trooper's Pexlerr (BTW their flag looks very similar to an Islamic crescent to me)
Anyway, making an SE4 shipset is much more complicated and therefor we have fewer shipsets.

I hope that doesn't mean that we'll have even fewer shipsets for SE5.

I also have a some SE3 shipsets somewhere.
But now, as I had done with that quick conVersion you were kind enough to send me back, I want to concentrate in the 12 stock SE3 shipsets that didn't make it into SE4.
I think I had already mentioned how disappointed I was when I finally got the full Version of SE4 and found that there were no more converted SE3 shipsets than the two I had seen in the demo.
Well I'm doing something abut that now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

BTW I have completed few more ships of that style12 shipset, but I'm too lazy to upload and post them tonight.

Kamog April 8th, 2004 07:03 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Wow that ship looks really good! The fine detail of the texture on the ship is very impressive. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Andrés April 19th, 2004 10:11 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Here's what I have so far. I just posted because I needed a little encouragement to finish the set.
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/preview12.jpg

There are still a few details that need to be fixed, such as that light-color band on the left of the ovoidal hull of the destroyer.
As always, don't be afraid to critizice, I mean it's nice to hear how nice your work is, but it's not very useful to correct details

The race portrait is currently considered provisional, ¿do you think it matchs the shipset?

I also need AI and racial descriptions.
Perhaps these pictures will get some of the AI wizards and/or story writers inspired. Anyone?
I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file, but you may change it to match the racial descriptions.

dogscoff April 19th, 2004 10:31 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
That is nothing short of mind-blowing. I'm glad I already finished the KanesS because if I'd seen these first I would have given up on shipset creation completely.

Those pics are truly gorgeous. Did you make the race portrait yourself? If so, how? I mean really, how?

pathfinder April 19th, 2004 10:51 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
So far I can't find any faults. Very well done IMHO!

Andrés April 19th, 2004 11:47 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
The race portrait is from this picture by H.R. Giger.
http://www.fred-katrin.de/giger/tour...urist_VIII.jpg
I just cropped it and atlered its colors to match the shipset.
The textures are also from another of Giger's pictures with altered colors.

Ed Kolis April 20th, 2004 12:58 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Great ships - don't hesitate to finish the set! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Master Belisarius April 20th, 2004 01:33 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Hey Andrés, very nice shipset!!

And by the way, never expected to see the Profesor Neurus playing SE4! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

PvK April 20th, 2004 02:14 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Looking extremely good! Yes the portrait is a very good match.

PvK

TerranC April 20th, 2004 02:38 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
/me bows down and praises Andres, while repeatedly showering him with imaginary flowers and lengthy words of praise.

Kevin Arisa April 20th, 2004 02:46 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Totally amazing! Maybe after you finish it you could write a short tutorial on your methods. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities April 20th, 2004 02:51 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Is there a list and pictures location for all of the SE III Ship sets?

Atrocities April 20th, 2004 03:00 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
This image looks suspiciously like my ex-girl friend did in the morning..... Very freaky..... Guys if you meet her... look past the body and face and see the evil, dark, betraying, cold hearted, psycotic beast within. JUST RUN.

LOOK AT HER

Things on my list to do if I could travel back in time.

1. Give self winning lotto numbers for 10 years on exorsketch. Warn not to loose.
2. Warn self that when you meet Tammy, RUN!
3. Cut brakes on Step Mothers car.
4. Turn left instead of right when entering Stevenson on July 5th 1991.
5. Take the blue pill.

[ April 20, 2004, 02:01: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Fyron April 20th, 2004 05:31 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">IMO Sethulkra is a very good name for this set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Andrés April 20th, 2004 05:37 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Is there a list and pictures location for all of the SE III Ship sets?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron had posted a file with lots of se3 shipsets below.
There's also a file downloadable from malfador.com
If you want the stock shipsets get the complete Space Empires III.
You don't need to buy the shareware Version to get the shipsets, only to play with all features.

Alternatively they may be in some se3 site still Online, or someone can post them. I have them somewhere on one of my cds.

Fyron April 20th, 2004 05:43 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
I believe that the stock ship sets are in that file I linked to below. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron April 20th, 2004 05:46 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 20th, 2004 06:21 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, you need .X Files.

hehehehehe

Kamog April 20th, 2004 06:34 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
That's a very nice ship set, Andres. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The detailed wavy texture is really unique and beautiful, and the race picture is perfect for the ship set.

Baron Munchausen April 20th, 2004 03:54 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If he can clear the copyright permissions on the race portrait, that is...

Ragnarok April 20th, 2004 04:42 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Excellent shipset. I truely cannot wait until it is completed. I will use it in my PBW games after that. Evil looking race portrait too, I like it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

dogscoff April 20th, 2004 04:42 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

If he can clear the copyright permissions on the race portrait, that is...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If not, I'm sure a suitable replacement could be modelled/ drawn by Andres or someone else here.

Andrés April 20th, 2004 07:33 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Theoretically it can be exported as .X
Face count is not that high considering that models consist of many curved surfaces, and may be reduced with a little work.
And I'm supposed to be able to export them with .x format or maybe convert .3ds files into .x
But I don't even have the SF demo or any other program that uses these format to test them.

Abut the copyright, I don't think it will be a problem as long as I don't try to sell it. Well known artists such as H.R. Giger consider these knid of fan work as free publicity.
And for SE5, I don't know what kind of race portraits it will use, but my guess is that they will also be 3d models and not 2D pre-rendered pictures, so a new one will have to be modeled anyway.

BTW I keep working on the shipset and just finished the bases, but I'm too lazy to upload and post another preview.

Quote:

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
Hey Andrés, very nice shipset!!

And by the way, never expected to see the Profesor Neurus playing SE4! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Today, Trulalá. Tomorrow, the quadrant!
¡¡MUEJEJEY!!

gregebowman April 20th, 2004 09:47 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Nice looking set of ships. And that picture. I can sympathize with Atrocities. It looks surprisingly like my wife when she loses her temper, and the longer we've been married, the shorter time between outbursts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Phoenix-D April 20th, 2004 10:35 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
I kind of doubt SE5 will use 3d race portraits. Faces are the most difficult aspect to render, you'd get little gain for a LOT of effort.

If you can send them to me in .x or .3ds I can see how they look in Starfury.

Kamog April 21st, 2004 02:33 AM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
That picture looks ... dark and disturbing. The creature has a very evil, sinister look. I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone like that; I'm not strong enough!

ZeroAdunn April 21st, 2004 11:45 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Wow, just stunning ships. We need to get a crew together to do all the SEIII stock shipsets.

That would be great.

Andrés April 23rd, 2004 05:22 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andres:
I also need AI and racial descriptions.
Perhaps these pictures will get some of the AI wizards and/or story writers inspired. Anyone?
I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file, but you may change it to match the racial descriptions.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron seems to approve the name Sethulkra for the race. What about empire type, emperor name, design names and racial descriptions.
Can't any of you write three lines of text?
Not even suggestions?

Maybe it's because I've been reading NJO books recently but when I think of a dark, nasty race that uses organic techs I can only think of something too similar the Yuuzhan Vong.

Maybe if I offer a prize?
Get me a nice matching description and I'll email you an exclusive preview of the shipset plus a couple of larger renders of the ships.

ZeroAdunn April 23rd, 2004 11:22 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
I like the idea of a intel race, who uses cunning and deception to it's fullest. Unfortunately SEIV intel is sub par IMHO.

Phoenix-D April 23rd, 2004 11:28 PM

Re: SE3 shipsets
 
Change the prize to .3ds files (or a format I can use, heh) and you're on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


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