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No crap, the Tigger Character at disney land has at least 20 complaints filed against him for sexual assualt stemming from when he inadvertantly touched a womens breasts.

Now 19 or more claims of assualt have been filed along with lawsuites.

Further proof that the world has gone to hell.


http://www.nbc10.com/news/2991093/detail.html

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Hmm... wtach out for people who go by the name of tigger...
Has anyone seen Growltigger lately...?
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">who knows. But of course that really only works to get weed out those with prior convictions. There are a lot of pervs out there who look like angels on paper.

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That is true... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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You have to also think of the employers - they may release someone just short of firing them because it is so much paperwork (weak excuse, I know)and bad press to have a police investigation in an employee (who wasn't honest on their resume). It is often a "quit or I will fire you" attitude which the employee gladly takes and gets off scott-free. Following employers only see a "This person worked here from x to x." Letter with no mention of the fact that they stole their body-weight in office supplies every week and looked at illicit material Online every day. Take a look a the nurse in PA/NJ on 60 Minutes who was essentially killing patients and none of the hospitals were willing to press charges because of the bad rap they would get. They were afraid he would SUE THEM!

As a counter-point (I haven't read the article), wearing a giant costume head does make it difficult to walk around and one can make mistakes when trying to pose for pictures with family after family eight hours a day in the Florida sun.

What a crazy world.

Wildcard

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Y'know, GT is gonna pound the snot out of us if/when he ever comes back... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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Yep i know! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

That is why we must appease him in some form! Does anyone have a supermodels phone number? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I for one wish for no date with "The red hot Poker cannon!"

As for this whole Tigger sex abuse thing it really doesn't suprise me. Although i imagine this will cause outrage as it's a job in close proximity to children. Lets hope the guy gets sent down for it. Although with today's justice system i imagine the defence will be "He's in a big Animal suit in the Florida heat all day, it messes with your mind!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

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Well now, doesn't the Tigger costume have big clumsy soft paws.

Maybe, he could not help but to touch something he shouldn't. Maybe he couldn't feel it anyway.

Or maybe, he just had his paws all over them.

[ April 11, 2004, 20:25: Message edited by: Wardad ]

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Any who has worn a costum like that knows that you cannot feel crap through the gloves so there was no way he was intentionally "rubbing" their breasts. (Objectively speaking of course, if he did then throw the book at the punk.)

Besides if he was wouldn't they have said something sooner? What most likely happened is they developed the pictures and saw that they could "Claim" that he touched them in the breasts because a photograph gave the appearence of so and figured they could CASH IN on it. "A picutre is worth a thousand words." True, but a picture is subjective and can be taken many ways. Pictures should never be considered evidence of wrong doing without supportive PROOF. The testemony of two women, obviousy seeking money, is NOT proof.

These others are just copy cats and should all be charged with filing false police reports.

No the two women who charged this guy with a crime, thus ruining his life forever, are the real criminals. They are doing it for one reason, MONEY.

[ April 11, 2004, 18:33: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I read this yesterday!!

I'm confiscating my sister's Tigger toy's as we speak http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Growltigger? at disney land? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Hmm doesn't fit in with the usual suspsected retirement areas. Unless it's some propaganda against the furry one? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

But really, don't they perform background checks on these people? And also how come it's always people in those costumes? Barney, Tigger.....who else?

And Yep, Earth is heading to hell in a hand bucket http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ April 11, 2004, 12:05: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

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Those costumes are hot and uncomfortable. You can only see through small eye holes, so if you want to see anything but straight ahead you have to keep turning your head side to side and up and down. People can tap you or hit you and you can't see where it came from.

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"Now, Disney has gotten 24 more complaints from visitors who said Tigger also pawed them.

The Orange County sheriff's office is investigating, and said it believes at least 13 of the claims are credible."


Anyone wonder what the Orange County sheriff's office is doing about the 11 non-credible claims? Gee possible nothing?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif Assuming for a second that the guy is innocent and not some perv who likes fondling girls in a tiger costume (either could be true in this case IMO) they will never stop these kind of claims until you start nailing those making these bogus claims. But that will never happen.

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Personally i believe one of those parties should go to jail or have some sort of suitable punishment, this sort of thing is just wrong on either outcome.

If the guy is guilty - well there isn't much of an argument there.

If he is an Innocent man then I don't know what's more sick. This kind of thing is horrible and the women trying to claim money over it are just... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

*sigh* My faith in this race is really beginning to fade... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yup, its times like these when you need to get a faster car...


erm sorry, couldent risist. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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We now live in modern day Rome. Rome just prior to its collapse.

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To be honest, aside from the death and brutalization of inocent people, I would welcome a major change on the scope that Rome endured in the end.

[ April 12, 2004, 12:01: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Now if Tigger had grooped a boy or a man, well then, that would be a wee bit harder to explain...... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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We had an incident locally that was similiar in reverse. The mascot of a local restaurant accused two local politicians of "inappropriate" touching during a photo op during the eatery's Grand Opening. In front of the men's wives and the entire restaurant, no less. Worse, the State Patrol investigated and said there was enough evidence to go to trial. The judge wound up dismissing the suit against one man and the jury deliberated less than two hours before acquitting the other man. Evidently the classmate who testified the girl bragged she would get a new car out of the settlement was pretty convincing. Unfortunately, the second man lost his job as County Election Commissioner before the trial.

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The case you posted would surprise me somewhat less, kalthalior. It's amazing the crap the people that do the mascot stuff have to put up with.

Pushing, shoving, hitting, knocking you over..all the way up to lighting the costume on fire and stabbing you- fortunatelly they guy in question turned just right and the suit was thick enough to stop the blade.

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People dont know the meaning of respect these days

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Hmmm, I come back to the forum for a microsecond, before real life whisks me off again, and look what the lot of you are saying....

reaches for red hot poker hand cannon and makes sure it is fully loaded with blistering iron spikes ready for appointments with the rectal regions of half the forum's denizens, especially General Woundwort as I just have this thing about Phoenix and Arizonans in general! (cos of an undercooked chicken breast at Monty's Casa Vieja which meant my drive up to Flagstaff was dictated by the number of rest stops with sanitory loo facilities on the way!!!)...

On a vaguely serious note, isn't it sad how things are going. I blame the American "high compensation awards" legal system.

When I were a young lad, if I touched a woman inappropriately in the chest department, one of three things happended, either (i) she slapped me or kicked me in the knackers, (ii) she got her boyfriend to slap me or kick me in the knackers or (iii) she didn't mind and I was on for a promise.

These days, nothing happens other than her lawyer sends you a demand for £10,000,000 in damages for hurt feeling, inappropriate behaviour and wear and tear on bra!!

Mad, the world is as mad as a bunch of badgers!

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Sorry to hear about your distress Growltigga.
I ate at Monty's Casa Vieja many a time. The place is well known for it's steak. No one I know has ordered the chicken. Did you offend the Mexican staff?

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*signs* *shakes head* *takes in deep breath and lets out slowly* Posts

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You need to spend some time in the better part of Arizona. That would be Tucson, of course.

(ducking, running....)

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Oops, frantically uses soldering iron to delete the name "General Woundwort" from the tip of a red hot poker, and hastily re-chisels Wardad on it.

Sorry Woundwort, I meant Wardad. I am rather dyslexic when it comes to "wubble-yew" words, and tend to lump you all together.

Wardad, I ate there twice, I had steak the first night, but after a week on steak at pretty much every tex-mex place in Phoenix (what is it about Americans assuming that all us Brits want to eat is steak!!??), I just fancied something a little different, and I had had a really good meat combo at Cooperstown the night before and thought that Monty's might be a bit more authentic.

Everything was good, but the chicken (after three requests for it to be properly re-heated, and not just nuked!) was still pinker than someone from Ohio on a mediterranean beach, and the waiter obviously really didnt like me when the nasty beer in the pitcher was warm (and no, it wasn't urine. although it sure tasted like it).

Basically, they couldn't cope with a customer complaining that the food wasn't cooked properly, and got dead shirty, especially when I didnt leave them a tip and explained loudly to them why I wasnt leaving a tip!

Gastonomic problems were sorted when I got to Flagstaff, and went to a great bar/restaurant called the Whistle Stop or something like that. Good food and great beer (the landlord was English), and as for the fry up I had at the Motel near Canyon de Chelly, marvellous. Best fried chicken I have had outside home - made up for the lack of alcohol.

Whinge moan sob, talking about food is upsetting me. Except for Easter Lunch, I have been surviving on a diet of bad chinese, as the eating choices where I am working is Macdonalds (not to be eaten even if it were the Last thing on the planet) or really really really poor Chinese (so, far, I have counted 13 different ways you can slaughter sweet and sour chicken!!!) - I could even cope with Monty's underdone chicken!

*****, whinge whine moan belch

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Hmm, Red Hot Poker http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I'm charging you with sex abuse. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

It sounds like they got you. Around here you can't critize anyone, even if your right. You have to apologize politely before asking for a problem to be fixed. BUT three times, I would have walked...

Coopersville (owned by Alice Cooper) sports bar has some fun decor and it's nearby all of the downtown stadiums. Did you take in a game?


BTW: Smoked Barbequed Chicken will have some pink inside, even when fully cooked. But, I bet you know that.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry to hear of your gastrointestonal distress, but don't blame me - as my member info line says, I live in Ole Virginny. Plenty of fine restaurants (and quality microbrews) here!

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Wardad, I did walk eventually, but only at a fast shuffle toward the nearest lavatory facilities.

I know what you mean. I do like complaining to Americans in the service industry, it absolutely throws them. When they ask you if everything was OK with your meal, you say, fine thanks but the sprouts were overcooked and the butter on the carrots was rancid, they just look absolutely po-faced and dont know how to react. Laugh? keeps me cheery on my foreign travels... at least to the US anyhow...

I did rather enjoy Cooperstown. The food was pretty good and cheap, the music was loud, the waitresses all had funny eye make up and the beer was actually quite good.

Didnt catch a game however. The Arizona Sun Devils (whatever they are) were apparently playing something, but dont ask me what. It is probably baseball or basketball or something and I dont understand either. I would have quite liked to catch a game though. I saw the 49ers play at Candlestick Park years and years ago and quite enjoyed the spectacle.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wow, American beer doesn't get any better than that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Canadian beer's better!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Tigger not guilty in criminal trial. {clicky}Awaiting results of civil suit.

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Just got back from Disneyworld...Believe me, I kept a close eye on Tigger! Piglet seemed a bit nervous around him and most of the other animals avoided him altogether, particularly Rabbit. Only Eyore seemed to not mind where Tigger was. :-)

And there were TWO human spotters (animal handlers?) monitoring the animals at all times.

[ August 05, 2004, 13:03: Message edited by: solops ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I know I'm going off topic.
From that channels news page I watched some videos and came across a video of a monkey that walks. Looked for other sites covering it. Interesting story, but the standard of originality in the worlds media isn't much. Every news service carries exactly the same report, which I guees means it just comes from Reuters or AAP. Just to be nitpicky they all say "Monkey apes humans". Its irrelevant I suppose in a human interest story (or is that Monkey interest story) and just using a phrase, but monkeys are not apes.

Edit: in Bruce Campbells Biography he is at a book signing when a group of Teenagers tell him they work as characters at Disneyland. He jokes about they must really have video of Goofy and Snow White in the back room. The Teenagers reply seriously that yes they do and then go into detail about what happens.

[ August 05, 2004, 03:27: Message edited by: Randallw ]