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Liudas April 14th, 2004 03:28 PM

About expierence
 
Can anyone tell me, what fleet and empire expierence gives? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Timstone April 14th, 2004 03:35 PM

Re: About expierence
 
Fleet exp: fighting, kill, kill, kill.

Empire exp: win games. But it doens't give you any advantages. This is done to prevent cheating.

Liudas April 14th, 2004 03:45 PM

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Can you be more specific? I thought that ships experience gives attack/defence bonus, but what kind of bonus does fleet expierence gives? And how your empire expierence can prevent from cheating?

Arkcon April 14th, 2004 03:45 PM

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Like timstone says, fleet and ship experience gives each ship the listed % bonus to hit with beam weapons and defense from beam weapons.

No effect on missiles and ramming.

Empire experience provide no benefit, so no point in playing 1000 games against the AI and trying to sell the resulting .emp file on EBay to play by email lamers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 14, 2004, 14:49: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Liudas April 14th, 2004 03:48 PM

Re: About expierence
 
You mean if i have +20 ship experience and + 20% fleet expierence my beam weapons will shoot +40% acurate?

Ed Kolis April 14th, 2004 03:51 PM

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Yep... AND, your enemies' beam weapons will shoot 40% less accurate at you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Arkcon April 14th, 2004 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Liudas:
You mean if i have +20 ship experience and + 20% fleet expierence my beam weapons will shoot +40% acurate?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Absolutely. They already have 100% to hit at point blank range, -10% per each sector distance, and affected by the opponents experience, and components.

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Phoenix-D April 14th, 2004 06:01 PM

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Correction: they have 99% to hit at point blank. You NEVER get a 100% hit rate without a Talisman.

Alneyan April 14th, 2004 06:04 PM

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Actually, they have a virtual 100% (as far as calculations go) at range 0. As you cannot fire beam weapons at range 0, the best you can get is 90% at range 1 (before you take the bonuses into account that is).

However, you could argue that seekers, boarding and ramming involves an attack at range 0, hence the 100% chance of such attacks.

PsychoTechFreak April 14th, 2004 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Liudas:
And how your empire expierence can prevent from cheating?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I assume Timstone meant the not implemented advantage due to empire exp. itself is a prevention from cheating.

PS: Who carries over his old empires to the next games ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

[ April 14, 2004, 18:03: Message edited by: PsychoTechFreak ]

Ragnarok April 14th, 2004 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:

PS: Who carries over his old empires to the next games ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do it alot in KOTH games. And the other times I usually just edit my main race for each game.

Fyron April 14th, 2004 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
Actually, they have a virtual 100% (as far as calculations go) at range 0. As you cannot fire beam weapons at range 0, the best you can get is 90% at range 1 (before you take the bonuses into account that is).
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That isn't quite true. You can get 99% to hit out at long ranges, if conditions favor you. There is no 100% cap at range 0. There is only a 99% cap at each range, applied after all ranges have been calculated.

Alneyan April 14th, 2004 07:56 PM

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I did add "before you take the bonuses into account" because of what you mentioned Fyron, but I ought to be much more clear.

Same here Ragnarok, I tend to use the same race in all my games (when applicable), as it is much faster than altering several Empires. And don't you want to appear as an old race, whose wisdom is unparalleled by these young newcomers? Perhaps it is only my ego as an Emperor that speaks however.

Liudas April 14th, 2004 08:25 PM

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I think point-blank distance is next to ship and it`s 99% to hit, not 90%. If it would be one sector away then it would be 90%

Fyron April 14th, 2004 09:33 PM

Re: About expierence
 
Point blank firing is one square distant, so there is a 10% penalty to hit.

Fyron April 14th, 2004 10:02 PM

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Quote:

PS: Who carries over his old empires to the next games ? [Confused]
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do all the time.


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