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Vasiliy April 15th, 2004 11:09 PM

Is effect cumulative?
 
Is effects from System Robotoid Factory and Roboroid Factory cumulative? i.e. if I have RF III on the planet and SRF III in this system will effect 60% or 30%?

Thanks

Fyron April 15th, 2004 11:11 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
Yes. You get the effect of the best system ability and the best planet ability that affect a particular planet. You can stack a system and a planet robotoid (or a planet robotoid and a system mineral scanner), but you can not stack a robotoid and a mineral scanner (the planet kinds of each).

Ed Kolis April 15th, 2004 11:13 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
The two types of facilities are cumulative with each other, so it would be +60%. However, robotoid factories are not cumulative with other robotoid factories, or with mineral scanners / hydroponic farms (or whatever they're called, I never research them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ) / radioactive colliders, and likewise for the corresponding system facilities.

narf poit chez BOOM April 15th, 2004 11:14 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
the effect is cumulative, although i don't know if it stacks. Also, according to some things i've read, the effects of the system one don't show up on the planet display, only the empire status window.

Fyron April 15th, 2004 11:16 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Also, according to some things i've read, the effects of the system one don't show up on the planet display, only the empire status window.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is quite true, and it has been this way since Version 1.00. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Raging Deadstar April 15th, 2004 11:28 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
Actually i'm pretty sure the Robotoid Factory and Mineral Scanner/Hybrid Farm thing/etc do stack... Or i've been misreading my Planet screens... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Fyron April 15th, 2004 11:35 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
It works by ability. You get the effect of the best of each of the following abilities that affects a planet, regardless of what facility they are on:

Resource Gen Modifier Planet - Minerals
Resource Gen Modifier Planet - Organics
Resource Gen Modifier Planet - Radioactives
Resource Gen Modifier System - Minerals
Resource Gen Modifier System - Organics
Resource Gen Modifier System - Radioactives

Resource Gen Modifier Planet - Minerals and Resource Gen Modifier System - Minerals will stack with each other. But, two facilities that each have Resource Gen Modifier Planet - Minerals will not stack with each other.

Robotoids have 3 of the abilities, either planet or system. You can have a Robotoid Factory stack with a System Mineral Scanner, because one uses planet abilities, the other a system ability. But, a Robotoid Factory and a Mineral Scanner (both of the planet variety) will NOT stack their bonuses to minerals production, only the best value will be used.

Raging Deadstar April 15th, 2004 11:41 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
*wanders off to check his old Savegames...*

se5a April 17th, 2004 03:59 AM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
oh....
so if I build an organic med lab and gestaion vats in the same system the reproduction is not gona stack?

Fyron April 17th, 2004 06:51 AM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
Nope. Only the best is applied. For facilities, most abilities that are percents do not stack. Actually, I don't think any of them stack... (for the same ability, System vs. Planet counts as different abilities, except for Happiness modifiers)

Aiken April 17th, 2004 10:19 AM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Actually, I don't think any of them stack... (for the same ability, System vs. Planet counts as different abilities, except for Happiness modifiers)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Does it mean, that System-wide happines modifier from facility and planet happines modifier from another facility won't stack? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Roanon April 17th, 2004 11:35 AM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
As system-wide and planetary modifiers are considered to be different, they DO stack. The same system-wide modifiers, even if from different facilities, are considered equal and only the best bonus is taken, so they do NOT stack. Same for planetary modifiers. For example, mineral scanners and robotic factories do not combine.

Aiken April 17th, 2004 12:47 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
But it was something in Fyron's post:
Quote:

except for Happiness modifiers)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What do you mean, Fyron?

Fyron April 17th, 2004 05:31 PM

Re: Is effect cumulative?
 
The planet and system happiness modifier abilities do not stack from what I can tell. Only the best of them will affect the planet. This can be seen by using a negative value for the planet ability, which actually works (negative system ability doesn't work). Make it -30 or something. Watch people get angry. Build UPC I, it all goes away.


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