Null-space weapons vs. temporal weapon
 

I was wondering if the null-space cannon's damage is any different than the temporal weapon that skips shields and armor. THe damage type is listed as the same: "Skips shields and armor" - but the null-space cannon does more damage and goes like twice as far, so I figure that there simply must be some difference, otherwise there would be no point to the temporal weapon!

Thanks!
-Timbo

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They are essentially the same weapon but I'm pretty sure the temporal weapon costs less to research making it easier to get at than nullspace weapons. But yes there is not point really.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Temporal Shifter III can do 50 of damage and the range is 4. Cost 500 Minerals and 200 Radioactives.
The Null - Space Projector III can do 60 of damage and the range is 5. Cost 1000 Minerals and 1000 Radioactives.

The point with the Temporal Weapons are the other weapons... not the Temporal Shifter that's a near to useless weapon (like the Null Space Projector!!!).

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Then I have another question for you - do you play temporal technology often? The only reason I ever play it is for the space yards. The only temporal weapon I ever use is the shield accelerator cuz it outranges the standard shield depleter.

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I play Temporal most times. And for me, the Shipyards are the biggest draw, but the Tachyon Cannon is my second choice. With almost as much damage as a Wave-Motion Gun and a reload rate of 2, it becomes very effective anti-ship weapon. I primarily use it on Weapon Platforms. Most ships have to get into, and stay in range of these to do a planetary attack. Unless the attacker has enourmous numbers on me, this is quite effective.

As for the Temporal Shifter, I only really use that against Organics.

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is this referring to solitary or PBW? or both?

the reason i ask is cuz i've never seen the AI mount a decent planet assault, so if you have, i wanna know about it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Late Game TDM Modpack, High Difficulty, Max Bonuses.... It Hurts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I always play Temporal with my main race. And Yes The Spaceyards, Tachyon Cannons and Shiled Accelerators are pretty cool.

Although that weapon (Time Distotion Burst, you know the one that does 4x damage to shields) is extremely useful on fighters and troops http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Edit: Double Post, I havn't done that in a LONG Time...

Although, Temporal becomes really nasty if you add Hardy Industrialists to your Racial Traits, Combine it with another Racial Trait and things get obscene...

"Fear my Crystalline armoured Temporal armed Baseships with Huge Reductions to Maitenance!!!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ April 18, 2004, 10:41: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

Re: Null-space weapons vs. temporal weapon
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In multiplayer games, think is not so easy try to play using special traits... because you must survive until you could take advantage of it (IMHO).
About the Temporal Tech itself, think not only the space yards are usefull, because the other 2 facilities are very good (the combat bonus are great defensive facilities, and the happiness bonus are the best in the game). Also, think excluding the Temporal Shifter, the others weapons are very good (although expensive to research).
Finally, about AI attacking planets, well, for sure the SEIV AI never will play like an human player. But as Raging Deadstar said, using TDM, High Difficulty and Max Bonuses, sometimes you can get a decent challenge.

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Especially against your AI MB!!!

Those Tesselate are tougher than the Aquilaeians! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I remember reading here that the Events Predictor only gives an offsensive bonus.

[ April 18, 2004, 15:09: Message edited by: Spoo ]

Re: Null-space weapons vs. temporal weapon
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I remember reading here that the Events Predictor only gives an offsensive bonus. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sadly, this is true. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif But, the facility is still primarily defensive in nature, as you can only use it in your systems, when you are being attacked.

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Unless you send a cloaked colony ship into enemy territory, along with a storm generator, and create storms over the planet you colonize hoping to God that you get a cloaking storm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Of course then the opponent, if he were a human, would sooner or later realize that one of those tiny toxic planets he'd been meaning to colonize sooner or later had suddenly disappeared, and he'd research hyper optics for a few turns, then crush your puny outpost http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Re: Null-space weapons vs. temporal weapon
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I remember reading here that the Events Predictor only gives an offsensive bonus. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I wrote it in the sense that Fyron said... then again, Fyron is right!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Think they're strong if had enough time to survive until get the Talisman and BB.

But really I'm very happy with the BA ships that designed for them. Sure, they're slow and the AI will need a good time until research the tech to build those ships... but the Crystalline Armors make them hard to defeat and cheap to build.

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Tesselate? I'll have to include them in my next game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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one thing i think that needs to be resolved is the cloaking and mine problem.

As mines are developed rather early They render cloaking obsolete rather early.

ps. I know this brings this down a different path... but it will go back to temporal soon enough