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wow

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/artic...1581842,00.asp

Recommended hardware ... dual-core cpu at 4 to 6Ghz, 2gigs of ram , up to a terabyte of storage...

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This monster will never occupy my computer. Too much eyecandy IMHO.

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Longhorn's Palladium security system could be the thing that pull me out of PC gaming. And don't get me started about console, I hate console games.

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Lots of people seem to be unhappy about the system requirements being so high, but you have to take into ccount that this will be released in 2,3 or even 4 years and computer technology advances very fast. Lets look at where we were 4 years ago. Late Pentium II early Pentium III era, computers that were 600-700mhz were blazing, now we have 3.4 GHz Pentium 4's. I don't think those system requirements are unreasonable at all.

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I think there is a general rebellion against bloatware in the works, though. Has the OS -- or any other software that has bloated with it like MS Office -- gotten noticably better for all this extra space and CPU power used? No! I'm sticking with Windows 98 for the forseeable future, and plan my next 'upgrade' to be LINUX. And besides the bloat wasting our rapidly advancing computing power, it looks like Longhorn will be another step in putting 'Big Brother Inside' our PCs.

Slashdot: Microsoft Assembles Patent Arsenal for Longhorn
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...tid=187&tid=99

It seems that Microsoft is filing a staggering, mind-boggling 10 patents per day as it builds Longhorn. Every eyeblink and twitch of this OS will be patented so they can prevent anyone from making inter-operable software or even programming applications that they don't like -- i.e. something that breaks their DRM system. If you didn't like the 'registration' system for XP watching your hardware and requiring a refresh if you changed too much, you'll really resent Longhorn as it controls what you can do with your own data!

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I'd rather they fixed their old products before trying to sell us new ones.

A system that bloated will inevitably be just full of holes for hackers to exploit... *shudder*

As for this palladium, I've heard that it ties in with gov plans to install backdoors into all legitimate crypto- or to put it another way, to make crypto illegal if you don't hand the government your keys. If that's the case case then it's yet another erosion of civil liberties. Don't like it.

*dogscoff really will get round to installing linux one of these days.

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Frequently competitors/disgruntled employees/whatever release 'mis-information' about MS (or anyone else for that matter) and IMO the source (MicroSoft Watch) has about as much integrity as the National Enquirer. Remember, anyone can put anything they want when they say it comes from 'a reliable source'.

Now if the hardware specs started with 3+ GHz processor (what the high end is today), then it would be a little more believable. MS is already well aware of the user opinions about their hardware requirements. Yes, MS has always 'upped-the-ante' with each new OS, but this is a little far out.

Watch for MS' response soon....

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The only reason the government keeps taking away our rights is because the majority of the poeple don't care. After 9/11, I read about some people that were arrested because they had an anti-Bush poster on their wall. That was it. So when did freedom of speach disappear?

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The "Patriot Act" was when the largest chunk of your freedom in recent memory went away.

PvK

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">eyecandy? Have you seen screenshots or something? I have not managed to find any screenshots.

If you did manage to find screenshots could you post a link? I'm curious to see what the UI looks like.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Truth.

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"An America that creates a secret police power which can by its secret discretion invade the privacy of Americans and intimidate them is a far cry from what our Founders envisioned and from what we have fought to protect for 228 years.

A country where you are visited by the authorities for thinking or voicing an unpopular idea smacks more of the Taliban than Thomas Jefferson. Trading in our basic rights for the false facade of security is not worth it ? and it is not worthy of a great nation such as America.

We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft.

That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time...."

For the rest of it see:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/s...2003_1201.html

Sorry, couldn't resist. But this thread had clearly become political already.


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Truth. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

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No doubt, close connection between early windoze alpha and political situation in US is obvious http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And whos going to pay for that top of the range system? Not me thankyouverymuch. I can make do on a 10th of those system specs and still be facinated by computers.

Err, the copy of Longhorn I saw ran on a pretty standard laptop, and looked like a pushed forward Version of Windows XP, but with limited driver support. I mean, windows hasn't changed much since W95, don't expect 'miracles' in the interface changing.

They are right, looking ahead though. I mean WinXP when first released only supported HDD's up to 138GB, and hence 160GB HDDs didn't work properly... technology moved faster then they expected? That shouldn't mean the 'underpowered' machines shouldn't be able to use the software though.

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That article is the same crap that has been going around for months. And you guys should know better. If MS is to see a fast return on their investment, they will need a big upgrade response after the initial released. That is were the big profits are, the OEM’s all get deep discounts on the preinstalled systems. Also, they want to maximize the potential market by being as inclusive as they can. You can bet that it will run on any low end system that is being sold by Dell right now, and probably any system that XP will run on. There might be a requirement for a 3D card, but I would expect it to run with out one. Perhaps without all of the eye candy. At the very least, it will run on any system that is still within the four year cooperate life cycle. That’s puts it on sub 2GHz systems that were being sold year before Last.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">eyecandy? Have you seen screenshots or something? I have not managed to find any screenshots.

If you did manage to find screenshots could you post a link? I'm curious to see what the UI looks like.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://winsupersite.com/longhorn/
The most complete source of news and rumors about Windoze Longhorror, in the meantime.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think Windows has changed rather alot from the old days of 95. XP is a much greater product then 95 was. Sure XP isn't perfect, but how do you expect it to work on 100% of system flawlessly? For that fact, how can you expect 100% perfect software? Human error always will show through, though Microsoft could probably handle it better.

Personally, the "security" features of Longhorn scare the willies out of me. Being Australian and having a government thats still trying to struggle with the concept of ADSL, I'm not sure what their stance would be in regards to Palladium (sp?). I have to agree in that its all just to keep an eye on what the Users are using and the information we're keeping. I'm guessing Microsoft might even sell such information for a price http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I don't trust having someone over my shoulder watching everything I do and look at, in case I might just do something I'm not supposed to do. It's like having my girlfriend watching me chat on irc, just in case a girl tries to chat me up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is extremely disturbing... so now, you won't be able to use drivers from companies that do not pay Microsoft loads of money to get the driver signed... super.

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Why is microsoft allowed to do what the government can't? Or at least, has laws againt...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the link, interesting look, but I shudder to think what the loading times will be. I bet the 'loading time' is the real reason they suggest a dual processor 4ghz system as a minimum requirement.

LOL, Oh well, I'll probably stick with XP for another 5 years before I upgrade..

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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The 'special features' are more likely the reason for the huge system specs if this is correct. MS has to justify the need to upgrade, but most people are happy with the functionality of Windows 98. We have reached a 'plateau' of computer functionality (the Apple Macintosh interface, actually. Mac 84 = Windows 95 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) and no new 'revolutionary' improvements seem to be in the wings. So they are resorting to 'bells and whistles' to make Longhorn look like some sort of big advance. Voice recognition (first made a default feature in XP) and the 3D desktop will use MUCH processing power and RAM. A second processor to handle all the fancy toys will no doubt make a big difference with Longhorn.

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Funtionality in interface, yes. Where MS gets is by stopping release of updates. No more bug fixes for those new security holes.

It also means things like USB support (not in Win95), support for more than 512MB of ram (Win98 doesn't do that very well), etc..