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dogscoff June 3rd, 2004 04:36 PM
OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
OK, so Hollywood is making a sfx-fest film out of one or many of Asimov's robot stories. www.irobotmovie.com but I can't be bothered to look up any info on it myself, so I'm asking you lot.

-Which story or stories is it based on?
-Will Will Smith be playing Elijah Bailey?
-Have they butchered Asimov's story beyond all recognition? (I'm thinking yes, but I'm trying to remain open-minded) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
-Will they attempt to make it all contemporary, or will they remain true to the 50s/ 60s based science and culture in the books? I'm longing to see a modern-day film made true to the retro-science of the era in which the story was written. The closest we have in the 1980s Version of Flash Gordon...
-Will it be part of a greater continuity of films based around the rest of Asimov's three-laws books?
-Will anyone here bother to see it, or should we all just hate it from afar? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
-Does it have anything to do with that AI film that came out a few years ago and (I believe) was another hideous Hollywood Asimoff rip-ov.

Katchoo June 3rd, 2004 06:28 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I haven't read the book in years, but there's nothing in the Trailers for the Movie that I've seen that resemble any of the stories in the book. I think all they've done is taken the title and the premise that Robots aren't the perfect servants humanity was looking for.

geoschmo June 3rd, 2004 06:34 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I concur. From looking at the trailers the only similarities I see is the title and the three laws themselves.

General Woundwort June 3rd, 2004 09:34 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Yet another Hollywood hack job on a classic sci-fi story. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif Well, look on the bright side... it can't be as bad as Starship Troopers was, right?...

...who am I kidding. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

gregebowman June 3rd, 2004 10:59 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by General Woundwort:
Yet another Hollywood hack job on a classic sci-fi story. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif Well, look on the bright side... it can't be as bad as Starship Troopers was, right?...

...who am I kidding. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I didn't think Starship Troopers was all that bad of a movie, but it's probably been at least 25 years since I've read the original book, and it's still in storage at my mom's house. I wasn't going to buy another book when I already have one. So my memory has faded over what the book was about.

As far as I, Robot, I haven't seen the trailers yet. But considering the track record of Hollywood of making hack-jobs out of great sci-fi books lately, I fear for the worst. Maybe they will surprise us and it will turn out to be a great tribute to Asimov. I think this is the first time one of his books has been made into a movie. I'm suprised the Sci-Fi Channel hasn't made any Foundation movies and/or mini-series yet, like they're doing with Riverworld. It really can't be as bad as The Day After Tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Atrocities June 3rd, 2004 11:00 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Battlefield Earth -ok books, horribe movie.

Gandalf Parker June 3rd, 2004 11:02 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I think all of the examples are great examples of movies Im perfectly happy to watch on TV but glad I didnt pay to take the family to see in the theatre.

Lord_Shleepy June 3rd, 2004 11:16 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by gregebowman:

I didn't think Starship Troopers was all that bad of a movie, but it's probably been at least 25 years since I've read the original book, and it's still in storage at my mom's house. I wasn't going to buy another book when I already have one. So my memory has faded over what the book was about.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well...if you don't remember the book very well then think yourself lucky. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Starship Troopers WAS that bad of a movie...at least when the original book is taken into account. The book has been criticized by the ignorant as being somewhat facist in nature. In that regard, the movie succeeds where the book failed. While the book emphasized discipline and comraderie the movie was pure jack-booting propaganda...and somewhat crude at that. The changes in the story and the hammy acting in the movie don't bother me very much - it's the complete 180 in overall tone and spirit and the crude way in which it tries to bludgeon the viewer with it's message that drives me crazy. I have quite a high tolerance for bad movies...but this one made me want to tear out my brains and boil them in acid to remove the horror of it's memory. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Raging Deadstar June 4th, 2004 12:56 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
On a Purely Movie based opinion. Starship troopers wasn't that bad, and i could watch it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Now if we bring in the book it was based on, then it's an entirely different matter.

I just think of it was a standalone film so it doesn't disapoint me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Kamog June 4th, 2004 02:00 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Well, I haven't read the book, but I thought the movie was OK. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities June 4th, 2004 02:01 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
If you think SST was bad wait until you see SST II now on DVD. BAD BAD BAD BAD movie

dogscoff June 4th, 2004 09:26 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Yet another book vs film thread falls victim to starship troopers...

Atrocities June 4th, 2004 09:27 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
Yet another book vs film thread falls victim to starship troopers...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ROFLMAO - Why does it always end this way?

General Woundwort June 4th, 2004 09:49 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Atrocities:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by dogscoff:
Yet another book vs film thread falls victim to starship troopers...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ROFLMAO - Why does it always end this way? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Probably because SST is the pet "Worst Case Scenario" of a Hollywood rendition of a sci-fi novel. But, hey, maybe in a few months, "I Robot" will steal the prize away! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Raging Deadstar June 4th, 2004 11:01 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
Yet another book vs film thread falls victim to starship troopers...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's true!! They always end like this!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I think we're all getting our soapboxes polished up so we can debate which is worse in comparison to their respective books...And each other! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thanks for that one dogscoff, that quote made me laugh quite hard!!

[ June 04, 2004, 10:03: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

Cyrien June 7th, 2004 04:52 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I, Robot the movie looks like this:

The robot kills it creator

The company seems to be covering it up since it is the first of a new line of robots for humans that is going into mass production and global shipment 1 robot for every 5 humans! Woo!

Will Smith seems to be a cop

Will Smith thinks the robots are evil and want to take over the world.

The Robots are evil and start attacking people and trying to take over the world.

I think that is about the extent of the public knowledge base of the film so far.

It is an action flick.


I will probably go see this movie and pretend that its name is anything other than I, Robot. Other than the fact that they both involve robots I see almost no relation.
Honestly if they had called it ANYTHING other than I, Robot I think it would be a good Sci Fi Action flick. As it is everyone will just remember it as the movie that butchered its original text even more than Starship Troopers did.

dogscoff June 7th, 2004 08:37 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
OK, it does sound like complete crap. If it disregards asimov as far as you say it does I will make a point of not seeing it. Not until it's out on TV anyway.

General Woundwort June 7th, 2004 10:17 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I did a little data mining, and it appears that the movie's connection with the actual story anthology "I Robot" is just with the title alone...

Quote:
The movie is not out yet so the IMDB entry is not based on the credits as they appear in the movie. IMDB information is often submitted in an unofficial way and is therefore subject to errors. Nowhere on IMDB does it claim that this movie is "based on" the book of short stories by Asimov. In fact the official movie site (http://www.irobotmovie.com/) only says that the movie is "suggested by" Asimov's short story collection. This, in my opinion, is a far cry from a claim that this is based on the short story collection.

Further, I've followed the development of this film for years at sites such as http://www.darkhorizons.com/2004/irobot.php which prints movie news and rumors (and clearly distinguishes between the two). As stated elsewhere in this thread, this movie was already well under development when the decision was made to buy the rights to "I, Robot" in order to use the title and a few assorted plot elements (but not the plots) from the stories therein.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://www.talkaboutabook.com/group/...ges/31557.html

IOW, they just hijacked the title to add credibility to their crud. [Pun intended] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM June 8th, 2004 10:14 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Isaac Asimov could turn out better scripts than the average hollywood stuff while suffering from a splitting headache, cronic back pain, pnunomia, amnesia and writer's block.

Ed Kolis June 8th, 2004 02:59 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
If they threw in a few Megaman references I *might* watch it... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Atrocities June 8th, 2004 06:10 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
When are they going to make a Pack Man movie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo June 8th, 2004 06:25 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Pac Man wouldn't make much of a movie I don't think. Although it might be cool if they made a Tron like movie where a guy got stuck in an old 80's video game world. Pac Man could be one of the sceens. Probably be a bear getting all the licensing needed for that one though.

Gandalf Parker June 8th, 2004 09:51 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
The DVD rental "Club Dread" had a cute scene of a hedge-maze and people playing life pac-man in it. Some guys were even dressed like giant fruit trying to get away

General Woundwort July 16th, 2004 02:20 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:

John Podhoretz
NRO Columnist

July 16, 2004, 8:34 a.m.
The Fresh Prince & the Robots
I, Robot.


Once again, there's a movie involving robots in which the robots are far more interesting than the humans. Will Smith is the name above the title in I, Robot, but he's the star of this movie the way that Mark Hamill was the star of Star Wars. Even the extraordinarily magnetic Fresh Prince just can't compete when he has to share the screen with a really cute robot.

Sonny is the robot's name. He's a machine that understands he's a machine, and he's baffled, upset, and fascinated by it all at once. He has somehow transcended his machine-ness, and nobody can quite understand how it's happened. Sonny is an inspired creation. Half-animated and half-acted by a terrific stage actor named Alan Tudyk in the same way that Gollum in The Lord of the Rings movies was played both by Andy Serkis and a computer program, he's the only reason to see I, Robot, which opens today in about one billion theaters nationwide.

This movie has to be judged a terrible disappointment, considering that Will Smith can be such fun to watch and that director Alex Proyas made two compelling and incredibly stylish science-fiction movies before this one (The Crow and Dark City). Surprisingly, except for a few mesmerizing shots of an army of robots climbing a building with the dexterity of spiders, I, Robot isn't all that much to look at. And Smith's character is little more than a gigantic pain. Smith plays a paranoid and lonely homicide detective in 2035 Chicago, and he gets into lengthy arguments wherever he goes. Watching him yell and stomp around and get nothing done gets pretty old pretty quick, especially since his antagonists are right out of the Hollywood Cliché Manual of Style.

There's the brilliant but cold lady scientist who is more comfortable with machines than people (a truly ghastly performance by the model Bridget Moynahan). There's the suave and evil anything-for-a-buck corporate smoothie (played by the terrific Canadian actor Bruce Greenwood). And, of course, there's the gruff but lovable sergeant who keeps getting into a lather and taking Smith's badge away. (Chi McBride, who plays the sarge, played almost exactly the same part in Last year's totally hilarious race-relations blaxploitation spoof Undercover Brother, only he was kidding in that one.)

The few scenes that really cook are the ones between Smith and Sonny. "A robot can't compose a symphony," Smith says contemptuously, "or take a canvas and turn it into a work of art."

To which Sonny replies, "Can you?"

He also wants to know why people wink at each other — a question whose answer will come in handy later in the film.

The title, of course, comes from Isaac Asimov, who collected a bunch of short stories under the title I, Robot. The movie has little to do with Asimov aside from its use of his Three Laws of Robotics, designed to protect humans from the possibility of runaway machines killing them and taking over the world. One of the few witty touches in the blathery screenplay by Jeff Vintar and Akiva Goldsman is the way they turn Asimov's principles into an advertising slogan inside the movie. People who buy robots in the I, Robot movie universe are assured they are "Three Laws Safe."

Robots have a rich and storied history in movies. The first distinguished science-fiction movie was a 1926 German silent called Metropolis, in which a woman named Maria is replaced by a lewd and sexy mechanical Version of herself. (The "false Maria" winks lasciviously, a famous image to which I, Robot pays tribute with its wink.)

In the 1951 disarmament fable, The Day the Earth Stood Still, war-crazed Earthlings are made aware of their foolishness by a robot from outer space named Klaatu. Two decades later a fascinating little film called Silent Runnings featured Bruce Dern as a lonely guy on a space station who is kept company by three adorable mechanical helpers he calls Huey, Dewey, and Louie — the clear precursors for C3PO and R2D2 in Star Wars. And in 1981 came the great Blade Runner, the robot movie to end all robot movies, in which the mechanical people achieve a tragic grandeur when they all discover they have only four years to live. This movie contains the greatest line ever spoken by a robot, when Rutger Hauer's Batty the Replicant beats the tar out of Harrison Ford's Rick Deckard.

"Come on, Deckard," Batty says. "Show me what you're made of."

The great mystery is why robots come off so well in science-fiction films when the human characters are often so astoundingly wooden. The great mystery of I, Robot is why a huge star like Will Smith would allow himself to be upstaged by a special effect like Sonny.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://www.nationalreview.com/podhor...0407160834.asp

Atrocities July 16th, 2004 03:54 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Is any one going to see this movie today?

gregebowman July 16th, 2004 06:57 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
I plan on seeing it, but it won't probably won't be today. Hopefully within the next week or two.

Puke July 16th, 2004 07:20 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
what about the upcoming Philip K. Dick film rendition of A Scanner Darkly?

featuring Neo, the little goth girl from Betelguise, and the Natural Born Killer.

oh yeah, and its going to be ROTOSCOPED.

and you thought butchering Asimov was bad....

Will July 16th, 2004 07:30 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Atrocities:
Is any one going to see this movie today?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'll wait 'til it comes out on video. Then I'll either do netflix when I can't think of anything else to watch, or watch it if a friend rents/buys it.

I already know the entire story from the previews anyway...

Cheeze July 16th, 2004 09:43 PM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
Definitely can't go tonight. Stargate Atlantis is on!! Priorities, man, priorities! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

se5a July 17th, 2004 12:26 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
there actualy already IS a movie based on asimovs book I robot. - it was acted by ahh whatisnameagain? *facepalms* and from memory it was fairly close to the book to...
but yea its a shame that moveies cant come up with decent scifi, except for the occasional brillian persion like Peter Jackson, and a few series (none of which manage to keep continuity)

I think move wrighters need to have decent educations in phisics, history, and have done some military service, and be made to read every great sci fi authors books.

[ July 16, 2004, 23:28: Message edited by: se5a ]

Puke July 17th, 2004 12:28 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
there is? whats it called? when did it come out?

there was an old i-robot standup arcade game, but it didnt have much of anything to do with anything. sort of fun though, you can grab it on mame.

se5a July 17th, 2004 12:29 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
ahmnn bicentenial man?

of cource I may be getting my asimov storys all mixed up, I have read so many of them that tehy have come a big blur...

[ July 16, 2004, 23:31: Message edited by: se5a ]

se5a July 17th, 2004 12:34 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
yea looks like I may be confusing a copple of asimovs books...

Atrocities July 17th, 2004 01:47 AM
Re: OT Aye, Carumba! I, Robot.
 
you know, I have no desire to see this movie at all.


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