Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I have plenty of experience playing against the AI and have done well against TDM races with large bonuses....

BUT I have very little experience playing against human opponents... This will soon change of course but I was just wondering if there was anyone else out there in the same predicament and wanted to play in a slightly less experienced game for the time being?

As far as game settings go thats open to discussion...

Anyone interested? I'd say post here, or drop me a PM or hit me up at spam A t texasxtreme D o t com

We'd need to find someone nice enough to be a 3rd party host of course as well... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 15, 2004, 03:11: Message edited by: LonghornXtreme ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I'll have a bash. I've only owned the game for about a week, and have mostly been playing Bab5 mod, but sure.

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Sounds like a deal... now to find a few more people...

Any game settings you want in particular?

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I'm fine with whatever you decide. Homeworlds values should probably be 'good', though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

i'd enjoy joining in let me know here settings are open as far as im concerned let me know where and when

define third party host do you mean a place to upload files to if so i believe i may have a place / website that can serve

[ June 14, 2004, 04:29: Message edited by: psimancer ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

As far as 3rd party host goes I was just meaning for PBW's sake. I haven't hosted a game on PBW myself so i don't know how much ethics would be needed to stay honest http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Well the game host does not usually have access to the player's passwords, so he can't look at their turns... I will be the host of your game if you would like...

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

sounds great to me
so what all do we need to do here
lets see we have players so far of

longhorn extreme
goatfoam
psimancer

with imperator fyron being host for us
i can provide a web space ftp to upload files to

hmm do we have to have someone in each slot or can we add someone later without diffuculty

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

No need for that. Go register at www.pbw.cc . Far more convenient.

What do you guys want the game to be named?

[ June 14, 2004, 15:59: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I wouldnt mind jumping in. Probably wont Last long.

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

You smurfing Gandalf? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Well lets start deciding what settings we want...

If its not that big a deal to be a host and play in the same game then I don't mind being responsible at all... Not trying to shift any of the time committment or anything hehhe...

Oh theres no need for a FTP buddy... We'll use the PBW server to keep things nice and autmoated as much as possible... If you haven't already do as Fyron says and go register a player name on the PBW website and as soon as we agree on settings for the game I'll creat the game up there...

Anyone got any ideas for a title? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I just went and registered at PBW - may take me a day or two to get familiar with the site. There's a lot there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

As for a game title, "n00bz killing n00bz" will probably be appropriate. "n00bz in Space", "N00bz: This Time It's War", or "OMFG THE N00BZ R FITING!!11one". You know. Something with n00bz. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice welcome for the new guy(s), Fyron http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Hi!
is the game still open???, what's the time limit for the turn?

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

How does a PBW game work??? The only games I've played with humans have been email games and those didn't do well.

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I have created the game "n00bz in Space." Sign up!

Kerensky, go to www.pbw.cc and register. Then, go to the Currently Open Games section and find the game in the list. Click on it's link. There will be a Join Game button (lightning bolt in the graphics mode). Then, the host (me) will approve you to be in the game.

PBW works by waiting until either all .plr files are uploaded or the time limit for the turn runs out. Then, it process the turn and emails it out to all players (you can disable the mailing if you want). You play the turn, upload your .plr file, and wait for the next one.

These settings need to be determined...

Starting resources: 5000, 20000, 100000
Starting planets: 1, 3, 5, 10
Home planet value: Bad, Average, Good
Score display: Own, allied, all
Technology level: Low, Medium, High
Racial points: 0, 2000, 3000, 5000
Quadrant type: TYPE
Quadrant size: Small, Medium, Large
Event frequency: None, Low, Medium, High
Event severity: Low, Medium, High, Catastrophic
Technology cost: Low, Medium, High
Victory conditions: DESCRIBE
Maximum units: 1000, 2000, XXX
Maximum ships: 200, 300, 500, XXX
Computer players: Low, Medium, High
Computer difficulty: Low, Medium, High
Computer player bonus: None, Low, Medium, High
Neutral empires: Yes, No
Other game settings: ANY OTHER SETTINGS
Turn Duration Limit: ?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hosting takes very little time once the game is started. PBW does everything for you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 14, 2004, 21:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Basically, all the turn management is handled by PBW. You submit turns to PBW by uploading or emailing and get the back by downloading or email.

It's just a robot to handle the turn management.

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Cool, thanks a lot Fyron.

I'm all for the following:
Starting resources: 20000
Starting planets: 1
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Own
Technology level: Medium
Racial points: 2000
Quadrant type: Mid-Life
Quadrant size: Medium
Event frequency: Low
Event severity: Catastrophic
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Any
Maximum units: 2000
Maximum ships: 500
Computer players: Medium
Computer difficulty: Medium
Computer player bonus: Medium
Neutral empires: Yes
Other game settings: Any
Turn Duration Limit: Any

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I'd say lets bump up the amount of units and ships allowed...

But the tech seems fine and so does the start....

Thanks a bunch Fyron for helping us out....

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Im going to step out then. I thought it was going to be a PbEM and I need that under my belt

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">PBW is PBEM, just without the drudgery of manually processing the turn for the host. On the player end, it can function identically, as PBW can handle email without problem.

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

settings look fine to me more ships more units sounds good too hmmm ... maybe 1k ships and 8k units

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

just edited the subject... hope that doesn't freak anyone out at all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

I updated the settings on the PBW page. Any objections?

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

What do you consider a Noob?

I want to know if I qualify?

Kana

[ June 15, 2004, 06:12: Message edited by: Kana ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Just a tip: Leave out the AI’s.

The AI’s tend to screw up any attempts of meaningful diplomacy and opens for some nasty exploits from the more devious players. Fun enough if that’s your thing, but not a good tool for learning to play humans http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

fyron looks good to me
and yes i like the ai's in there makes for some confusion in your dealings sometimes the chaos factor can be very helpful -evil grin-

think i intel attack an A.I. on another player
he has no idea who did it whereas i intel attack the player onto thwe A.I. hmm he might get a message if my sucess is not perfect (darn spies are never precise hehe)

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Okay,I signed up for the game. How do I upload my empire file?

EDIT: Realized I typed in my empires name instead of the shipset needed. Fixed that.

[ June 15, 2004, 17:29: Message edited by: kerensky ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Once approved by the game host (which I did just now), an "upload empire" button will be available to use. Make your empire file as if you were starting a game normally, with the correct racial points setting. But instead of hitting "Begin Game," click on "Save To File."

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

If playing with AI players, I would strongly recommend that the host disable the Applied Intelligence tech tree and remove Intelligence projects from the game. The AI's have a way of wrecking any meaningful attempt at diplomacy.

Barring that, all the human players should agree beforehand that unless a certain wording is used in the declaration, any declaration of war is invalid (the AI frequently fakes Messages issuing a declaration of war between two other players. Makes a fine mess of diplomacy and is far too powerful an attack to be in balance with the game)

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

The shipset that I use for my empire (the Dra'kol Empire) is not on the PBW site. Also, due to memory card problems, I won't be able to upload my empire till tommorrow

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

ahh there's my inexperience with the ai comeing in to play
so the ai causes us to declare on each other
an interesting facet of the game

however prefacing your Messages to other players in the same style as a chat board easily solves that however like in real life they can still messup the turn(game month) your on before you correct the situation

imagine russia sends a declaration of war and several vessels attack it would take a few months before it was all straightened out and russia apologized for the faked Messages getting through and we might never know that it was china who set the whole thing up in the first place

hows that for a real life example

so preface your human Messages as follows

psi:hi i see you wanna trade ?

as i really suspect that no ai will ever use/duplicate the colon in a mesage especially with a short Version of the name

ps: i like the added realism and challenge forces me to have anti intelligence to combat theres and gives the ai a way to influence us humans that makes up for their lack of tactical ability

[ June 16, 2004, 21:28: Message edited by: psimancer ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

The AI sends Messages normally. It does not fake them and look like a different empire. Unless, of course, they use the Comm Mimic intelligence project, in which case there is only one possible message sent out, so you can usually tell what happened. But it takes quite a while for that to happen...

This is not related to AI empires at all: If you miss a turn, the AI will take over for that turn. It often declares some wars on people. You can prevent this by going into the Ministers section of the Empire Status screen (crown icon) and scroll all the way to the bottom. There is a setting something like "AI should not make changes to the empire during a simultaneous movement game." Enable this, and the AI will do nothing if you miss a turn. It is a very good idea to make a habit of enabling this on turn one of every PBW game. Trust me, it is no fun having the AI screw everything up. Ship designs, fleet formations, construction, everything. Ugh.

[ June 16, 2004, 22:35: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

No one answered my question...

"What do you consider a noobie?"

I still want to know if I qualify....?


Kana

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

noob a person who is new to a community /situation and has not yet learned the normal unspoken rules of etiquette nor the normal rules of the game

in social situations this status can Last from a mere few seconds to months depending on the accepted practices of the community some keep a person as noob until the next new person shows up (see blue thunder character jafo) others can be relieved of this status by becoming an active part of the community

observed phenomenon: chat Boards bbs's and forums tend to have a period of approximatly 1 month of continued participation however in the instance of game related forums this can be longer as determined by your observed level of knowledge of the game and observed ability to play

therefore i question you

have you played pbw before
have you completed more than 2 pbw games (initiate)
did you win any (apprentice)


of course all that aside WE dont care as long as your not
the space empires lord and mastr of strategy here to wipe us out in turn 12
if thats not the case then hey join in
enjoy some fun and remember its just not a day until you space a few aliens http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

The game is filled on PBW... would you like me to increase the number of player slots?

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

its fine the way it is he just want to determine qualification im like severely ready to begin processing turns ((sarn little voice wont stop chanting "play turn process turn play turn process turn" driving me nuts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

hey kana
tell ya what lets set up a second game to start turns on say sunday or monday and see who we can get to play us

but on the start day it begins whether its just us or full 20
sound good ??

setting up game as "noobz in space:beyond the noobz"

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Quick note:
I'll be out of town till late on Sunday. Is there any way to make sure that my turn doesn't hit till Monday???

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

im hoping kerensky can run a few turns himself before the weekend off thing so he can set up or just let the ai start some colonization for him during the first few turns

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

The game has begun!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ahhh, the gentle hand of Fyron helping noobs off to a good PBW experience http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">cheering from the populous

Ahhh, the gentle hand of Fyron helping noobs off to a good PBW experience http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif . </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">just look out for the imperators dreadnought
and remember that gentle hand actually has monomolecular spikes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

hey folks i have set up anotherr game and all are invited to join i hoped kana would jump in this way he wouldnt be left out

its on the pbw server as

noobz in space:beyond the noobz

yes im going to play espicially sincew once first turn is processed host has nothing to do unless there is an error

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Hey guys, just got back. I'll be uploading my turn soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

OK. So I got my turn and put it on my computer. When I went to load my empire, it came up with the message saying something along the lines of that my data files aren't the same as the game Moderators http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif . Can somebody help me????

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Are you running patch 1.91 of SE4? Have you ever modified the files in the Data folder?

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

kerensky the game is being run on a clean copy of se4 gold updated to v1.91

what i did is in my malfador folder i renamed my original se4 folder to "se4 two" then i did a reinstall and updated the new install to 191
i use it exclusively for pbw ames now works perfectly and allows me to run my local game and still run the pbw turn when it becomes available

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

It is best practice to never modify the stock data files. Instead, create a mod folder (any name will do) and copy the data folder in there (including the folder). Make any modifications to this mod, not to the stock files. You can use Path.txt in the root SE4 directory to tell SE4 to load with that mod (just the name of the mod folder will suffice), or use the Mod Launcher, which can be found on the Gold CD (or a newer Version is available on SpaceEmpires.net ).

Re: Any "newer" players out there want to play "Noobz in space"
 

Ok I joined...I can't believe how many games I'm going to be in now...I hope to be able to keep track of them all...

Suggest that you make the quadrant smaller...if there is only going to be five of us. I will load an empire later this evening after being approved.

Kana